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Old 14 January 2006, 15:07   #21
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Already have. I'll win the auction though...

Oh look... Someone's bid on them...


I do like spending cash I don't have on things that dont exist...
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Old 14 January 2006, 15:14   #22
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You could mail them and warn them to proceed with care.
I don't mean to sound callous, but its 'buyer beware' when it comes to eBay.
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I don't mean to sound callous, but its 'buyer beware' when it comes to eBay.
Actually, if paid for through Paypal there is a certain amount of protection. I'm no fan of Ebay, profit is no.1 on their agenda. The punters don't even register on their scale.
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Old 14 January 2006, 15:56   #24
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From a skim-read, it looks like paypal protection isn't worth shit. Read below...


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Will PayPal Buyer Protection cover all eBay categories?

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My positive feedback is greater than 98%. Why am I not eligible for PayPal Buyer Protection?

The calculation for this purpose includes feedback from repeat users, and therefore may be higher than the unique positive feedback percentage displayed on eBay. To determine your feedback percentage go to the Feedback Received tab located in your eBay member profile and divide all positive feedback received by the total feedback received. More...

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Old 14 January 2006, 18:44   #25
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surprise surprise, no response to my enquiry requesting to have a look at then engines
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Old 14 January 2006, 23:07   #26
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None to mine for a phone number either
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Old 15 January 2006, 11:48   #27
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HE's cancelled my bid.....what a surprise
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Old 15 January 2006, 12:09   #28
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Nosser, maybe one of us should contact Ebay. They should pull the listing,eventually. Guy's on these marine type forums tend to spot the outboard type scams, but how many other types of scam are going on on Ebay? Ebay must be very adept at keeping it all quiet.
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Old 15 January 2006, 12:40   #29
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I tried that the last time this happened. They ignored it for over a week and nearly 20 reports-until I found a fone number and rang them-and even that took several hours.

By that time the guy had sent rather convincing phishing emails to nearly 20 people and so on and so forth.
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I've mailed the highest bidder and spelt it out in big letters, what more can one do?
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Old 15 January 2006, 12:46   #31
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Already done that and the guy's replied. said he 'thought it was too good to be true'

I'll bang another bid in with another account just before the end to leave -ve feedback.
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Old 15 January 2006, 16:18   #33
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Already done that and the guy's replied. said he 'thought it was too good to be true'

I'll bang another bid in with another account just before the end to leave -ve feedback.
If it definately a stitch-up, why not put in a £1 million proxy bid, and one of us can nibble the bidding up?
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Old 15 January 2006, 16:53   #34
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It won't allow bids that high without special clearance- I tried that once before.
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Old 15 January 2006, 18:18   #35
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bugger-was playing halflife and missed the end.

Is Fishysara on rib.net?
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Well, I kinda bought the outboards.. The seller has asked for the money to be transferred into their bank account, and refused my offer of cash on collection.. I sent another email, asking to see the outboards, and received this email claiming to be from ebay.. (return email addy was: aw-confirm@end-of-auctions-ebay.com)

Congratulations - You're the Winning Buyer
Patek Philippe 10 Day Ref. 5100 Yellow Gold Watch New
Item number:4603823822 Seller:burryleon(Georgina Emily Piggott-London United Kingdom)
End date:Sunday, 15 Jan, 2006 17:49:36 GMT


Dear fishysara, you have committed to buy this eBay item from burryleon.Please review the seller's payment instructions below.


Twin Mercury 150 EFI Saltwater Outboards (4603823822)
Your Price : £4,300.00
Date : 15-Jan-06

Don't let this get away!



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Complete your eBay transaction in 5 easy steps:
Buyer and seller agree on the transaction terms and a selling price. Seller contacts eBay with the transaction details;eBay accepts the transaction and offers purchase protection to the buyer (if the transaction is declined, no further action is required from either the buyer or the seller);
The buyer sends payment and the seller receives it. After the payment cleared, the seller must notify eBay. Buyer will send the payment details directly to the seller email address. The seller has three business days to send the buyer and eBay the tracking number of the shipment. If no tracking number is provided, a full refund is immediately sent to the buyer;

Buyer receives the merchandise and has five days to inspect it.
If it is complete and as described, the buyer should accept the merchandise.
If he refuses the merchandise, the buyer must ship the merchandise back to the seller within three business days. After the inspection period is over, the buyer mus! t contact eBay with the result of the inspection. If the buyer refuses the merchandise, the refund will be sent to the buyer after the tracking number for the returned shipment is verified. To enjoy the purchase protection, you must send the payment by the insured payment method below. Attention: Sending the payment by any other method will void this transaction and your right to refund.
Details and instructions of this transaction:

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Item insurance policy:
The following item(s) are clear for eBay's item insurance policy:
Twin Mercury 150 EFI Saltwater Outboards (4603823822)
Seller's verified payment address:
Georgina Emily Piggott
Bank:Natwest
Bank address:95 Church Road,London,NW4 4DL
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Sort code: 50-30-05
Swift: nwbkgb2l
Iban:GB40NWBK50300546088792

Buyer's shipping address:
sara jones
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Item Number: 4603823822
Amount insured: £4,300.00

Payment must be sent by Bank Account Wire Transfer
Next step to be taken: The buyer must send the payment to the seller.

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Purchase protection and refund:
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Currently, this seller has a US$ 20,000.00 deposit in an eBay managed purchase protection account. Transactions with this eBay seller are covered by purchase protection against fraud and description errors.
For your safety, this account was locked today, for 30 days time. The seller is unable to withdraw any money from it, within this period. Should you need a refund for this transaction, the insured amount will be taken from the seller's purchase protection account and sent to you. The refund is sent to your bank account, or by check or money order.
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3. You may buy and sell with confidence in all transactions with this eBay member.
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The seller was informed about this transaction being started and is
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To ask for a refund, simply reply to this notification ! and enter in the subject line:
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Gotta give them 10/10 for trying.. And surprise surprise, burryleon is no longer an ebay registered member..
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What a pile of "Horse Shit". As you say, they've gone to considerable lengths to scam the crap out of some poor unsuspecting person. Well done TC, but where the hell are Ebay in all of this?!!
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Old 16 January 2006, 10:48   #38
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Agreed

I liked the 'Don't let this one get away' sentence
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What a pile of "Horse Shit". As you say, they've gone to considerable lengths to scam the crap out of some poor unsuspecting person. Well done TC, but where the hell are Ebay in all of this?!!
Here...

"Hello,

Thank you for writing to eBay. Please allow me the opportunity to assist you with report concerning the user "burryleon". I understand how frustrating this situation can be for an eBay user.

Since the Seller has become "not a registered user", it is up to you to decide whether or not you complete the transaction. However, eBay does not suggest completing a transaction with an unregistered Seller because of the potential for problems.

Please understand that I am unable to provide reasons why this user is no longer registered. Also, I can't disclose information about whether they will be back on the site. However, if you are still unsure about what to do in this situation, you may want to take a close look at the user's feedback and see if there is any cause for alarm. If the user has numerous negative comments, then you probably would not want to complete the sale. Of course, the final decision is up to you.

To find out more about eBay's Trust and Safety policies please see the Rules and Safety pages at:

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/community/index.html

As always, my goal is to help you with your questions as quickly and accurately as possible. I appreciate your patience and understanding regarding this matter and wish you continued success on eBay.

Regards,

Charles Little

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Amazing how they can use so many words to say F' all! Signed Charles Little "help".
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