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17 August 2009, 23:36
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Member
Country: UK - N Ireland
Make: Redbay 650
Length: 6m +
Engine: 150 Suzuki
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 10
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Ultimate Club Rescue RIB and Engine Package (Around 5m)
Our club is in the market for a new club rescue boat. Anyone got any suggestions???
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17 August 2009, 23:44
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: London/Oxford
Make: Ribcrafts
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150hp/2x115hp
MMSI: 235090215
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 2,250
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Searider 5.4m
Ribtec 533
Ribcraft
Tornado 4.8m
XS Rib 4.8m
None of them need more than an 80hp
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17 August 2009, 23:45
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 13,069
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Originally Posted by Chuckles99
Our club is in the market for a new club rescue boat. Anyone got any suggestions???
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Depends how much you want to spend and where you want to rescue people from!
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18 August 2009, 07:10
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: fife
Make: Humber / searider
Length: 5m +
MMSI: ... - - - ...
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 720
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Originally Posted by Chuckles99
Our club is in the market for a new club rescue boat. Anyone got any suggestions???
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Really the RIB.net massive will need a bit more info to offer any helpful advice.
What sort of club and what sort of craft and standard of sailor are you talking about?
Budget?
Launching site?
Operating seas?
Are just some of the considerations to be taken into account
A 3m rib with a 10hp tiller would be ideal if you are looking at a beach launch, for 4 kids in a sheltered location if you have £1300.
If however you are looking to keep up with a fleet of Musto skiffs giving it big licks off shore then the above is going to be of no use at all.
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18 August 2009, 08:07
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: cookoo land
Boat name: tba
Make: ribcraft 595
Length: under 3m
Engine: Suzi 140
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 316
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Just lifted this from Ribcraft site!
Suzuki & Ribcraft Launch The Ultimate Club Safety RIB Package at the RYA Dinghy Sailing Show
Mar 2008
Suzuki and partner boat builder Ribcraft, launched a new safety RIB package at the RYA Dinghy Sailing Show at Alexandra Palace on the 1st and 2nd March.
The new safety RIB package has been put together based on feedback received from sailing clubs and with input from RYA Chief Powerboat Instructor, Paul Mara.
Paul explained, “We have been working together with Suzuki and Ribcraft to put together a fantastic, versatile and affordable safety RIB package suitable for any club event, from cadet training to general safety boat duties. The package is available to all but with this new deal RYA clubs can enjoy a substantial saving.”
The basic package is being offered to all RYA affiliated sailing clubs at an exclusive price of £11,375. It is also available to other clubs or associations and extra specification can be added as required. The boat that was unveiled at the Dinghy Sailing Show is RYA1, which will actually be used by Paul Mara and the RYA Training Department.
The original concept was put together based on clubs needing to have practical multi-purpose safety boats. Powered by a Suzuki 50hp 4-stroke engine the 4.8m Ribcraft RIB was designed to include features such as; plenty of space behind the helmsman for transporting racing marks and recovering a casualty; a removable fuel tank for easy refuelling and extra grab handles on the forward mounted console for crew safety.
Richard Whittaker, Business Development Manager at Suzuki commented, “We are really pleased to have worked with Ribcraft and Paul Mara to develop the ultimate club safety RIB. Suzuki’s modern 4-stroke, fuel injected outboards are ideal for rescue boat use as they are quiet, fuel efficient and low on emissions.”
Clubs wishing to find out more or to discuss their requirements in more detail, should contact Ribcraft direct on 01935 411846.
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18 August 2009, 18:53
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Member
Country: UK - England
Make: Bombard Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Honda 20
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 6
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Club Rescue RIB (Around 5m)
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Originally Posted by Chuckles99
Our club is in the market for a new club rescue boat. Anyone got any suggestions???
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Some info on XS Ribs XS-500 club rescue RIBs can be found here:
http://www.xs-ribs.co.uk/info.php and click on XS 500, also on the 'XS - VALUE - Details' tab.
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19 August 2009, 11:18
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: Wildheart
Make: Humber/Delta Seasafe
Length: 5m +
Engine: Merc 60 Clamshell
MMSI: 235068449
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,671
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As said above, it will all depend on your club's location, dingy fleet etc etc, however one observation I've made over a few years of dinghy rescues is that rarely do you see a club rib > 50Hp. or 5.5M long.
Remember that it will be used like a "pool car" and so unless you have a really strict and active bosun who has no quams about b*ll*cking the drivers or a full time resce crew that look after their craft, they'll be driven flat out most of the time and so fuel consumption will be horrendous. I hasten to add that I know there are responsible peeps out there, but let's face it, most club rescue drivers I've seen operate the "digital throttle" principle!
Also remember one club's ideal rescue boat will be the next's worst nightmare. I know clubs who preferred using Dories - lots of shallow water so the deep V was the proverbial chocolate teapot, but shelterd so waves never a big problem...... UIf you're launching off a beach a Large SIB may be better.....
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19 August 2009, 11:25
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,627
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Originally Posted by 9D280
As said above, it will all depend on your club's location, dingy fleet etc etc, however one observation I've made over a few years of dinghy rescues is that rarely do you see a club rib > 50Hp. or 5.5M long.
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I've used bigger - but the attraction was that it could easily pull half a dozen relatively large/heavy boats in "herringbone" formation over a few miles, which might be a bit of a drag (pun intended!) with a small engine. Generally would agree - small, agile, nimble are important characteristics.
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25 August 2009, 14:14
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: fife
Boat name: top dog
Make: avon searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: yamaha 40
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 282
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the club that i am at has
two 5.5m tornados one with a 75 and the other with twin 50s
Two 3.5 tornados with yam 30's
3.8m avon with yam 20 tiller
4m searider with 9.9
all are good boats, in my opinion the 4.5's are the best because almost everyont can drive them and they can take rough weather
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25 August 2009, 23:25
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Holbury
Make: Ocean Dynamic
Engine: 2 330 Iveco Hamilton
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 65
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Club Rescue Rib
Club Rescue Ribs , if you have £150K the 9.5 M Aluminium Ocean
Dynamic 400 HP Iveco Diesel ,Hamilton Water Jet. Wil llast for ever.
If not our smaller Humber 5.2 Ocean Pro with 150HP extra longshaft.
Or our most recent 4 Meter Humber , good value and construction.
Fitted as beach rescue with 20 HP 4 stroke Yamaha ( Only engine
of our choice ) Perhaps a larger engine for club Rescue .
In smaller Ribs we would always go and have gone Humber.
Buy direct for best price.
Tiffy Venturers Search and Rescue
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25 August 2009, 23:31
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Member
Country: France
Town: Côte d'Azur
Boat name: Beaver Patrol
Make: Avon Searider SR4
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 5,934
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The Ribcraft 4.8 would get my vote. Or maybe the new 5m??
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25 August 2009, 23:37
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Holbury
Make: Ocean Dynamic
Engine: 2 330 Iveco Hamilton
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 65
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Club Rescue
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Originally Posted by Chuckles99
Our club is in the market for a new club rescue boat. Anyone got any suggestions???
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Made error with my last post duplicated Humber Ocean Pro.
Now send picofour 4 Meter Humber
Taken at Dedication by our Pastor
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26 August 2009, 09:54
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Member
Country: France
Town: Nantes
Boat name: A l'Attaque
Make: Sea-Way
Length: 6m +
Engine: Not here yet
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 455
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Discov'Rib in France do a 5.5 Rescue rib with stretcher carrier an all. http://www.discovrib.com/gb/
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26 August 2009, 12:04
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,627
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Originally Posted by Tiffy
Club Rescue Ribs , if you have £150K the 9.5 M Aluminium Ocean
Dynamic 400 HP Iveco Diesel ,Hamilton Water Jet. Wil llast for ever.
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Tiffy, whilst quite possibly well suited to the work you do - I don't think this is a good rescue craft for an average sailing club for the following reasons:
- too big to manouvre easily amongst a fleet of small dinghies who are actively racing/learning. In a true rescue irrelevant, but for routine safety/coaching etc you would end up being further out of the action so as not to get in the way. And quite intimidating for a youngster in a topper or oppi as a boat 4x the size come alongside.
- 400 HP, even with a diesel is going to cost about 3x what a club should be spending on fuel (as has already been pointed out club drivers have no regard for fuel ecconomy).
- Jet - will require additional training for most drivers.
- Might last "forever" but tubes and engine will still require maintainence - so even if a club had that sort of budget (unlikely) they would be better splitting across multiple craft so there is redundancy.
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If not our smaller Humber 5.2 Ocean Pro with 150HP extra longshaft.
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Personally I would say that is overpowered for club rescue work. 90HP is probably adequate on 5m boat, and will be cheaper to buy and run.
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26 August 2009, 12:18
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southport
Boat name: Qudos
Make: 5.4 Searider
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yam 115 V4
MMSI: 235068784
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,930
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#cough# Searider #cough#
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26 August 2009, 12:56
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Member
Country: France
Town: Nantes
Boat name: A l'Attaque
Make: Sea-Way
Length: 6m +
Engine: Not here yet
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 455
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I'm not convinced but then i've never been in one. These club boats have to stop and start all the time. I would imagine that the hull wouldn't have time to drain out before it would be stopped again, and so on. I might be wrong.
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26 August 2009, 14:45
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Up Norf
Make: Avon SR4,Tremlett 23
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yam 55, Volvo 200
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,217
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo
I'm not convinced but then i've never been in one. These club boats have to stop and start all the time. I would imagine that the hull wouldn't have time to drain out before it would be stopped again, and so on. I might be wrong.
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The SR was designed as a rescue boat, the idea of the hull is to increase stability when recovering people from the water.
The hull doesn't take long to drain.
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26 August 2009, 15:02
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Member
Country: France
Town: Nantes
Boat name: A l'Attaque
Make: Sea-Way
Length: 6m +
Engine: Not here yet
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 455
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chewy
The SR was designed as a rescue boat, the idea of the hull is to increase stability when recovering people from the water.
The hull doesn't take long to drain.
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Yeah but I think it was built for going to do a rescue, doing it and then getting out. I would imagine that this is a lot more stopping and starting. The SR is obviously very good at its job, but was it designed to follow a load of toppers around all day ?
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26 August 2009, 15:11
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southport
Boat name: Qudos
Make: 5.4 Searider
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yam 115 V4
MMSI: 235068784
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,930
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It would use a little more fuel than a standard RIB hull.
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26 August 2009, 15:12
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Dun Laoghaire
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 86
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5m Searider with Yamaha 50hp...built like a brick Sh!t house and will still be going when you are gone...
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