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Old 24 October 2005, 09:23   #21
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Interesting! that stepped one looks like a Buzzi hull not too sure about the 95 Knt claim tho' (109mph) that is movin.
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Old 24 October 2005, 09:42   #22
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i may be wrong , but arnet they the ex delta lads ?
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Yes, they are.
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Old 24 October 2005, 12:40   #24
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Old 24 October 2005, 12:56   #25
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I am presuming you need the right weather window for this trip so what level of flexibility do you have on the departure date.

To get back to the original thrust of the thread, Codprawn, can you define Ultimate e.g does ultimate mean speed or durabilty or seakeeping or personal protection. I certainly don't think a seekweltrorler would fit into the category of an offshore Rib!
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I am presuming you need the right weather window for this trip so what level of flexibility do you have on the departure date.

To get back to the original thrust of the thread, Codprawn, can you define Ultimate e.g does ultimate mean speed or durabilty or seakeeping or personal protection. I certainly don't think a seekweltrorler would fit into the category of an offshore Rib!
Well "ultimate offshore rib" was really a bit of fun poked at the ad on boats/outboards - I mean what a way to describe a Medline!!! Nice boats in the right place!!!

As to what it really means I suppose a mixture of all those properties.

I have to be honest and say I don't like most cabin RIBs - the reason being that the very reason I wanted a RIB in the first place was for deck space - I like the open console type boats.

I even looked at things like the Whitesharks and Boston Whalers - also some of the French walkarounds - but I love the whole concept of a RIB - have liked them since I was a kid.

The ideal of course would be a RIB with a central cabin - the Shearwater looks good but the hull looks a bit too fine at the bow.

I think my ideal RIB would be something like a Rayglass protector 11m - nice cabin but still reasonable deck space and you can walk to the bow.

Other requirements would be

No transom
Diesel surface drives
Aluminium hull

The real problem is of course that different boats suit different purposes - for example I would love a waterjet for shallow surf but then would love a surface drive for high speed work and legs for grip when coming off big waves!!!
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Old 24 October 2005, 14:02   #27
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I don't like driving Cabin ribs at all! one starts to loose the immediate feel you have for the sea. However they are pretty much essential for comfotrt and all day work in hostile envoirenments. Also you can't hear what your crew are saying to you!

On second thawts that may be a good feature
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Good point that - which is probably why Yachties choose to be out in an open cockpit in truly obscene conditions - some of them(usually about 80 yrs old) think nothing of fighting 80kt winds 1500 miles from land in the middle of the night!!!

Seriosly though - you almost never see a yacht with any sort of protection at all. I know they have to muck about with lines and sheets and lazyjacks etc etc but it does make you wonder!!!
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I even looked at things like the Whitesharks and Boston Whalers - also some of the French walkarounds - but I love the whole concept of a RIB - have liked them since I was a kid.
Did not think that Ribs had been around that long!
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Good point that - which is probably why Yachties choose to be out in an open cockpit in truly obscene conditions - some of them(usually about 80 yrs old) think nothing of fighting 80kt winds 1500 miles from land in the middle of the night!!!

Seriosly though - you almost never see a yacht with any sort of protection at all. I know they have to muck about with lines and sheets and lazyjacks etc etc but it does make you wonder!!!
Seriously, you do talk some old tosh at times codders.......

The oceans are filled with 80yr old yotties, battling 80kt winds 1500 miles from land. Or maybe thats just another mate of yours then? I imagine any yottie unfortunate to be in that position rather does think something about it. Probably 'I wish I was in the pub!'

Many yots have some form of sprayhood to keep the worst of the weather/spray off the crew. But 'tis true that sailing is a much more at one with the elements experience than most powerboating. Doesn't make it any more pleasant in the rain though.
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Old 24 October 2005, 14:25   #31
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Re CAbin

Point taken, but a yottie is more or less working for pleasure (delivery is an exception possibly) so they aren't battling those conditions day in day out for weeks on end unless they get really unlucky. They cerrtainly are not governed by the Health and Safety at Work, the HSE or specific company regulations.

So in otherwords the fkkrs are enjoying themselves ish and a certain amount of adrelinine is being created and this helps any discomfort therefore so Cabins are useful on wokboats

So to answer your question I'll take a Techno if its not too rough (F7) but I will have a Delta with built in SRIMEC if it's rough . But if I am being paid I'll drive whatever has got a ticket

and If I am sailing then I'd happily go anywhere in a Sigma 38
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Seriously, you do talk some old tosh at times codders.......

The oceans are filled with 80yr old yotties, battling 80kt winds 1500 miles from land. Or maybe thats just another mate of yours then? I imagine any yottie unfortunate to be in that position rather does think something about it. Probably 'I wish I was in the pub!'

Many yots have some form of sprayhood to keep the worst of the weather/spray off the crew. But 'tis true that sailing is a much more at one with the elements experience than most powerboating. Doesn't make it any more pleasant in the rain though.
Obviously don't understand the meaning of "tongue in cheek" then!!!!
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Watch it codders medlines are standard issue for the Abersoch mafia do ya want a visit?
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Good point that - which is probably why Yachties choose to be out in an open cockpit in truly obscene conditions - some of them(usually about 80 yrs old) think nothing of fighting 80kt winds 1500 miles from land in the middle of the night!!!

Seriosly though - you almost never see a yacht with any sort of protection at all. I know they have to muck about with lines and sheets and lazyjacks etc etc but it does make you wonder!!!
There are quite a few within the Solent, Fishers, Nauticats, Hallberg Rasseys, Westerly Konsort Duo to name but a few
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There are quite a few within the Solent, Fishers, Nauticats, Hallberg Rasseys, Westerly Konsort Duo to name but a few
Fishers and Nauticats aren't yachts - they are motorsailers - most yachties frown down their noses at them!!! Not me though - would love a Fisher 37!!!
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Nauticats sail very well - better than they motor. And for the yachties who turn their nose up at them... when they are tucked up in the cramp bunk under the cockpit of their 45' yacht think of those in thier comfy double beds with full headroom - and that is on a 33' boat! Very very well built as well.
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Old 25 October 2005, 09:56   #38
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and If I am sailing then I'd happily go anywhere in a Sigma 38

I used to build them.
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what are sigma yachts like? Friend is thinking of buying a 33 or 38 and they seem to have a pretty loyal following?
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Old 25 October 2005, 11:44   #40
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They are very nice in the water and respond very well to the wind, basic inside but they sail well. and they seem to hold their value fairly well

Further info might be found from Kitten
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