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24 October 2005, 09:23
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: scotland
Boat name: Leviathan
Make: Phantom
Length: 8m +
Engine: GM Diesels
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,437
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Originally Posted by Rodin
My vote would go to one of these, they are seriously well built:
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Interesting! that stepped one looks like a Buzzi hull not too sure about the 95 Knt claim tho' (109mph) that is movin.
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24 October 2005, 09:42
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: emsworth
Boat name: the black stuff
Make: BALLISTIC
Length: 8m +
Engine: 2 x 200hp etec's
Join Date: Dec 2003
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i may be wrong , but arnet they the ex delta lads ?
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24 October 2005, 10:02
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cowes
Length: 8m +
Engine: 225 Opti
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Yes, they are.
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24 October 2005, 12:40
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Town: Brighton
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Bogi, how do you plan to stop the boat sinking?
John
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24 October 2005, 12:56
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
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I am presuming you need the right weather window for this trip so what level of flexibility do you have on the departure date.
To get back to the original thrust of the thread, Codprawn, can you define Ultimate e.g does ultimate mean speed or durabilty or seakeeping or personal protection. I certainly don't think a seekweltrorler would fit into the category of an offshore Rib!
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24 October 2005, 13:53
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
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Originally Posted by Rogue Wave
I am presuming you need the right weather window for this trip so what level of flexibility do you have on the departure date.
To get back to the original thrust of the thread, Codprawn, can you define Ultimate e.g does ultimate mean speed or durabilty or seakeeping or personal protection. I certainly don't think a seekweltrorler would fit into the category of an offshore Rib!
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Well "ultimate offshore rib" was really a bit of fun poked at the ad on boats/outboards - I mean what a way to describe a Medline!!! Nice boats in the right place!!!
As to what it really means I suppose a mixture of all those properties.
I have to be honest and say I don't like most cabin RIBs - the reason being that the very reason I wanted a RIB in the first place was for deck space - I like the open console type boats.
I even looked at things like the Whitesharks and Boston Whalers - also some of the French walkarounds - but I love the whole concept of a RIB - have liked them since I was a kid.
The ideal of course would be a RIB with a central cabin - the Shearwater looks good but the hull looks a bit too fine at the bow.
I think my ideal RIB would be something like a Rayglass protector 11m - nice cabin but still reasonable deck space and you can walk to the bow.
Other requirements would be
No transom
Diesel surface drives
Aluminium hull
The real problem is of course that different boats suit different purposes - for example I would love a waterjet for shallow surf but then would love a surface drive for high speed work and legs for grip when coming off big waves!!!
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24 October 2005, 14:02
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
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Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
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I don't like driving Cabin ribs at all! one starts to loose the immediate feel you have for the sea. However they are pretty much essential for comfotrt and all day work in hostile envoirenments. Also you can't hear what your crew are saying to you!
On second thawts that may be a good feature
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24 October 2005, 14:08
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
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Good point that - which is probably why Yachties choose to be out in an open cockpit in truly obscene conditions - some of them(usually about 80 yrs old) think nothing of fighting 80kt winds 1500 miles from land in the middle of the night!!!
Seriosly though - you almost never see a yacht with any sort of protection at all. I know they have to muck about with lines and sheets and lazyjacks etc etc but it does make you wonder!!!
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24 October 2005, 14:14
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bucks
Boat name: Blue & Ding Dong
Make: Ribeye,SR4 & Bombard
Length: 6m +
Engine: 115,50 & 15Hp Yams
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,252
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Originally Posted by codprawn
I even looked at things like the Whitesharks and Boston Whalers - also some of the French walkarounds - but I love the whole concept of a RIB - have liked them since I was a kid.
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Did not think that Ribs had been around that long!
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24 October 2005, 14:15
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Member
Country: Canada
Town: Newfoundland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
Good point that - which is probably why Yachties choose to be out in an open cockpit in truly obscene conditions - some of them(usually about 80 yrs old) think nothing of fighting 80kt winds 1500 miles from land in the middle of the night!!!
Seriosly though - you almost never see a yacht with any sort of protection at all. I know they have to muck about with lines and sheets and lazyjacks etc etc but it does make you wonder!!!
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Seriously, you do talk some old tosh at times codders.......
The oceans are filled with 80yr old yotties, battling 80kt winds 1500 miles from land. Or maybe thats just another mate of yours then? I imagine any yottie unfortunate to be in that position rather does think something about it. Probably 'I wish I was in the pub!'
Many yots have some form of sprayhood to keep the worst of the weather/spray off the crew. But 'tis true that sailing is a much more at one with the elements experience than most powerboating. Doesn't make it any more pleasant in the rain though.
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24 October 2005, 14:25
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
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Re CAbin
Point taken, but a yottie is more or less working for pleasure (delivery is an exception possibly) so they aren't battling those conditions day in day out for weeks on end unless they get really unlucky. They cerrtainly are not governed by the Health and Safety at Work, the HSE or specific company regulations.
So in otherwords the fkkrs are enjoying themselves ish and a certain amount of adrelinine is being created and this helps any discomfort therefore so Cabins are useful on wokboats
So to answer your question I'll take a Techno if its not too rough (F7) but I will have a Delta with built in SRIMEC if it's rough . But if I am being paid I'll drive whatever has got a ticket
and If I am sailing then I'd happily go anywhere in a Sigma 38
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24 October 2005, 15:51
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#32
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
Seriously, you do talk some old tosh at times codders.......
The oceans are filled with 80yr old yotties, battling 80kt winds 1500 miles from land. Or maybe thats just another mate of yours then? I imagine any yottie unfortunate to be in that position rather does think something about it. Probably 'I wish I was in the pub!'
Many yots have some form of sprayhood to keep the worst of the weather/spray off the crew. But 'tis true that sailing is a much more at one with the elements experience than most powerboating. Doesn't make it any more pleasant in the rain though.
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Obviously don't understand the meaning of "tongue in cheek" then!!!!
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24 October 2005, 18:57
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Country: UK - England
Town: Wilmslow
Boat name: Serotonin
Make: Quicksilver
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mariner 15
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 712
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Watch it codders medlines are standard issue for the Abersoch mafia do ya want a visit?
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24 October 2005, 19:23
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Member
Country: Canada
Town: British Columbia
Make: Gemini
Length: 4m +
Engine: 40hp 2 str
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fred bolton
Watch it codders medlines are standard issue for the Abersoch mafia do ya want a visit?
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"RIBs do break, don't they Colonel?"
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24 October 2005, 20:36
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Country: UK - England
Town: helston
Boat name: pressman
Make: Carson 900
Length: 9m +
Engine: twin 370 yanmar
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
Good point that - which is probably why Yachties choose to be out in an open cockpit in truly obscene conditions - some of them(usually about 80 yrs old) think nothing of fighting 80kt winds 1500 miles from land in the middle of the night!!!
Seriosly though - you almost never see a yacht with any sort of protection at all. I know they have to muck about with lines and sheets and lazyjacks etc etc but it does make you wonder!!!
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There are quite a few within the Solent, Fishers, Nauticats, Hallberg Rasseys, Westerly Konsort Duo to name but a few
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24 October 2005, 22:08
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Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
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Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pressman
There are quite a few within the Solent, Fishers, Nauticats, Hallberg Rasseys, Westerly Konsort Duo to name but a few
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Fishers and Nauticats aren't yachts - they are motorsailers - most yachties frown down their noses at them!!! Not me though - would love a Fisher 37!!!
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25 October 2005, 08:30
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cowes
Length: 8m +
Engine: 225 Opti
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Nauticats sail very well - better than they motor. And for the yachties who turn their nose up at them... when they are tucked up in the cramp bunk under the cockpit of their 45' yacht think of those in thier comfy double beds with full headroom - and that is on a 33' boat! Very very well built as well.
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25 October 2005, 09:56
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#38
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Devon. uk
Boat name: bananashark
Make: me
Length: 7m +
Engine: opti 225
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 325
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogue Wave
and If I am sailing then I'd happily go anywhere in a Sigma 38
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I used to build them.
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25 October 2005, 10:16
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#39
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Hampshire
Boat name: Tornado
Make: Nimbus Nova
Length: 7m +
Engine: Mercury 115hp
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 477
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sigma
what are sigma yachts like? Friend is thinking of buying a 33 or 38 and they seem to have a pretty loyal following?
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25 October 2005, 11:44
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
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I think
They are very nice in the water and respond very well to the wind, basic inside but they sail well. and they seem to hold their value fairly well
Further info might be found from Kitten
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