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31 March 2012, 19:51
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Country: UK - England
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Boat name: Moneypenny
Make: Avon SR 5.4
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Upholstery question
Does anybody have any experience in upholstering jockey seats?
Just looking for the basics and where to source materials from.
Woody
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31 March 2012, 20:26
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I looked at your post for a little while and thought I wasn't going to bother. Let me explain.
You pay for what you get and proper upholstery is worlds apart from basic that falls apart every year.
You can use ply for the base but make sure it dipped in resin.
Use dry fast foam as it doesn't hold water.
Stainless staples.
Proper stitching. Ie cricket ball or piped with proper twine.
If you want it to last do it properly
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31 March 2012, 21:31
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Member
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cheers for the reply, everything you have explained I have in hand apart from the stitching.
Not sure how the piping connects to the vinyl, does it have a flange to stitch to and will any decent sewing machine do the trick?
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31 March 2012, 21:46
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It's not worth the hassle of doing your own by the time you have all the bits, I got mine recovered only 4 backs and bases £120 at a chap that does motorbike seats.
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31 March 2012, 22:08
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Town: london
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Make: quicksilver 3.4
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Engine: suzuki df 9.9
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Originally Posted by woody73
Does anybody have any experience in upholstering jockey seats?
Just looking for the basics and where to source materials from.
Woody
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Welcome to Toomer and Hayter - Toomer & Hayter, Quality Marine Upholstery
i use this crowd good products and service
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31 March 2012, 23:32
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Toomer and hayter. Now there's an old company. I used to deal with them must be 30 years ago. It's worth to know that they sell off roll ends etc at the boat jumbles
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01 April 2012, 00:57
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Country: UK - England
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Make: SR5.4
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Does anyone know anyone who'll CNC cut ply for bases? (just redoing mine as the bases were rotting-me and woodwork don't go together)
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01 April 2012, 01:27
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Does anyone know anyone who'll CNC cut ply for bases? (just redoing mine as the bases were rotting-me and woodwork don't go together)
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most companys require a cad file from a drawing in dfx format
i use google sketchup its free and you draw to scale
use marine ply ( 7 ply ) not wbpand seal the wood with resin or epoxy
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01 April 2012, 09:08
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Originally Posted by biffer
It's worth to know that they sell off roll ends etc at the boat jumbles
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Zebedee Fabrics in Bournemouth buy up most of the end of roll Sunseeker fabrics and vinyls, and are excellent upholsterers, at a fair price.
Upholstery Fabrics, Curtain Fabrics items in Zebedee Fabrics store on eBay!
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01 April 2012, 10:39
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Originally Posted by guernseylee
HOME
most companys require a cad file from a drawing in dfx format
i use google sketchup its free and you draw to scale
use marine ply ( 7 ply ) not wbpand seal the wood with resin or epoxy
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Cheers-15 minutes up the road from me too!
7 ply 12mm for the bases? The originals are 3 ply 12mm.
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01 April 2012, 11:13
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Most upholstery companies prefer to not have the panels resin or epoxy coated, as it's difficult to shoot the staples into, also, resin isn't waterproof. I always coat the wood in International alluminium yacht primer, although I also use Foamex for infill panels, and Vetus Polywood for load bearing panels.
VETUS Catalogue 2012 - English
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06 April 2012, 21:11
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Does anyone know anyone who'll CNC cut ply for bases? (just redoing mine as the bases were rotting-me and woodwork don't go together)
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I have a CNc tekcell router sir send me some sizes I can nock em up from my 12mm off cuts doing mine on Monday so it's not an issue
Size and radius req or create it in Corel draw I can vector it there after
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07 April 2012, 13:59
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Wow, cheers Nugent. I'll get measuring in a bit.
Dirk, I was planning on epoxy coating the bases with penetrating primer.
Is it likely to cause issues with fabric if I shoot the staples in while the primer is wet?
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07 April 2012, 16:26
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Err, dunno, I've never managed to find an upholsterer that works that fast.
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07 April 2012, 19:46
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Err, dunno, I've never managed to find an upholsterer that works that fast.
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I'm thinking that if I do it that way, it'll seal the bases and the staples in so I shouldn't get any issues with the bases-hopefully ever....
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07 April 2012, 20:49
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I'm thinking that if I do it that way, it'll seal the bases and the staples in so I shouldn't get any issues with the bases-hopefully ever....
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if it works, its a great idea. Problem for me is that I have just spent the week coating my new bow seat plywood base in 4 coats of epoxy.
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10 April 2012, 18:50
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chuff me look what the cat dragged in
sorry pics are off my phone
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10 April 2012, 20:24
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Use foamex bases and s/s staples. Sunseeker utilise this composition and I followed suit for my complete reupholster last month. Great material to work with light, strong, versatile and doesn't rot!!
I can get hold of 8ftx4ft sheets easily if you are interested.
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10 April 2012, 20:27
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Quote:
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chuff me look what the cat dragged in
sorry pics are off my phone
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You sir, are a star! Thanks!
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10 April 2012, 20:40
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Originally Posted by Cobra200
Use foamex bases and s/s staples. Sunseeker utilise this composition and I followed suit for my complete reupholster last month. Great material to work with light, strong, versatile and doesn't rot!!
I can get hold of 8ftx4ft sheets easily if you are interested.
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mmmmmmmmmmm i have 10 15 and 22mm fomex never thought of using it in the past does the staples not pull out with expansion and contraction with heat though? bloody stuff moves around like a crack addict
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