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29 September 2011, 17:36
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Wild West
Boat name: No Boat
Make: No Boat
Length: under 3m
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Originally Posted by Polwart
Jack,
In one sense I think many UK boaters would agree with you, but on the otherhand many people see boating as one of the few areas of British life largely free from regulation / authority / paperwork. Any introduction of registration for boats would inevitably incur a cost which the boating public would perceive as a tax (and indeed might include a "profit" element and so actually be a tax). The RYA and others who represent the boating public also generally oppose registration since it could be the thin end of the wedge towards compulsory qualification of skippers.
With so many boats already out there is also makes it hard for anyone to introduce e.g. a new voluntary scheme.
In reality boat thefts are pretty rare (especially considering how easy it is). I don't know the stats - but I'd guess more cars get nicked (as a percentage of the total) and they DO have a registration system!
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Well said Mr,P!! I'm all for takeing ALL types of security seriously,especialy expensive Toys as individuals,BUT lets keep the High Sea's intact, as one of the few Bastion's of relative Freedom we have left!
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29 September 2011, 17:42
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Seattle
Boat name: Water Dog
Make: Polaris
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 60hp
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Originally Posted by Maximus
Well said Mr,P!! I'm all for takeing ALL types of security seriously,especialy expensive Toys as individuals,BUT lets keep the High Sea's intact, as one of the few Bastion's of relative Freedom we have left!
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You all do have way more rules over there!
I do store my RIB in my locked garage
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29 September 2011, 18:25
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Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Jack, presumably if you can pass your test on-line its of little value and therefore a bit pointless. Even mandatory PB2 probably wouldn't significantly improve the accident statistics - and may lead to complacency not competence. Hence the RYA's "Educate not Legislate" stand point.
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29 September 2011, 19:00
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Seattle
Boat name: Water Dog
Make: Polaris
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 60hp
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,152
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Originally Posted by Polwart
Jack, presumably if you can pass your test on-line its of little value and therefore a bit pointless. Even mandatory PB2 probably wouldn't significantly improve the accident statistics - and may lead to complacency not competence. Hence the RYA's "Educate not Legislate" stand point.
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I haven't seen an improvement in on-the-water behavior from it. Honestly I don't really care, just saying we've had titles and registrations for boats for many decades. First by our federal coast guard and now by states. Barely any required tests blah blah.
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18 October 2011, 17:40
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Lyndhurst
Boat name: Airborne
Make: SR4
Length: 4m +
Engine: 40hp
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 216
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I have my boat in the driveway and try to always keep at-least one car blocking it in. Plus I play Paint-ball a lot
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18 October 2011, 20:41
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: south Yorkshire
Boat name: Trasee
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 90
MMSI: 235099743
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 27
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Originally Posted by Nos4r2
Watch yourself doing that-if you've got no wheelclamp fitted, will your insurance pay out?
I know it sounds crazy, but if it's a stipulation, you never know what they'll say.
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Yep cheers for the heads up,your the 2nd to warn me of this,maybe a rethink is in order
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30 January 2012, 21:42
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Dunoon
Boat name: Celtic Wanderer
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 9m +
Engine: Volvo D6, Honda
MMSI: 235087784
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 205
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Driveway security
if parking up on the driveway or garden always put very large dog kennel very close
pikeys dont like nasty growling barking dogs!!!
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28 February 2012, 18:26
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Salcombe
Boat name: Sea'N'Shore
Make: Ribquest
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DF250
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 18
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Hi,
We have had trackers fitted to our boat if it moves within so many feet I gt a phone call and text sent to my phone.You can also track them moving online. A lot of the time the thieves are after the outboards.
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30 October 2012, 19:59
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Country: Other
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I agree,
there are quite a number of tracking devices on the market now. I've used them before to track various things. The best ones use Cellphone signal and satellite. They're small, inexpensive and easy to secrete on the vessel. Some have tamper switches which send a signal immediately if they are removed.
If you're UK based I can recommend these folks: http://www.mtrackonline.co.uk/
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Originally Posted by Aturnerjones
Hi,
We have had trackers fitted to our boat if it moves within so many feet I gt a phone call and text sent to my phone.You can also track them moving online. A lot of the time the thieves are after the outboards.
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30 October 2012, 20:10
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Wickford, Essex
Boat name: Wanderer
Make: Ribeye, Zodiac FR
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yamaha F300, 25 2S
MMSI: 235095667
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 219
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I've thought about fitting trackers but I tend to think they're only detective and most of the time the boats already been damaged. Having had a couple of outboards stolen over the past few I'm interested in trying to find something preventative ( other than transom locks) so that the hardworking people who may cut my transom to pieces to steal my engine will be deterred and move on elsewhere.
Has anybody got any suggestions that they've found works.
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01 April 2013, 19:17
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Dublin
Length: 3m +
Join Date: Mar 2013
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Steel pipe
lads a good thing is to run the chain through a gb pipe and have good lock would be very hard to rob just to add that
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25 April 2014, 21:04
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cowes
Boat name: WightStuff
Make: Ribeye
Length: 6m +
Engine: Yamaha 150hp
MMSI: 235072807
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 319
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Has anyone got any experience on the battery drain on the trackers?.
Really thinking of getting one, but don't want to get down to the boat to find the battery flat.
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04 May 2014, 20:49
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Gillingham Dorset
Boat name: Green Marlin
Make: Quickilver
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp Mariner
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 293
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Some of the phone based trackers are tiny, one in the boat & one hidden in the engine too would be a good idea. A decent sized battery should keep them going for a month easy I'd guess.
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04 May 2014, 21:55
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: East
Boat name: Seaflyer
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
Engine: Evinrude
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 232
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There's some on eBay for less than a tenner and draw only 0.2Ma. If you get the latest Ni-Mh e.g. Turnigy LSD 6.0V 2300mAh Ni-MH Flat Receiver pack (x2) you should only need to charge them once per year!
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04 May 2014, 22:13
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Bubbas Bouy
Length: 7m +
Engine: Mercruiser
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 629
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Seaflyer02
There's some on eBay for less than a tenner and draw only 0.2Ma. If you get the latest Ni-Mh e.g. Turnigy LSD 6.0V 2300mAh Ni-MH Flat Receiver pack (x2) you should only need to charge them once per year!
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Gisa link :-D
Sent from my iPhone using RIB Net
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04 May 2014, 22:22
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: East
Boat name: Seaflyer
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
Engine: Evinrude
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 232
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crusher
Gisa link :-D
Sent from my iPhone using RIB Net
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eBay number for batteries 331177685424 and for tracker
261402595106
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05 May 2014, 11:31
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: East
Boat name: Seaflyer
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
Engine: Evinrude
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 232
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Just seen this on eBay, perfect for our use 111201679112
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19 May 2014, 13:34
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Moreton in marsh
Boat name: Boo
Make: Jcraft
Length: 7m +
Engine: 30hp etec
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 33
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I have a road angel Biketrac for 3 years which is excellent and you can check the battery voltage too and set all kinds of alerts. Their call / monitoring centre is excellent too.
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19 May 2014, 15:41
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Country: UK - England
Town: Rutland
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Join Date: May 2006
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16 September 2014, 07:18
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Trade member
Country: UK - England
Town: Wirral, Merseyside
Boat name: Carpe Diem
Make: Ballistic
Length: 6m +
Engine: Evinrude 200hp
MMSI: 235109239
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 93
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Hi group, saw this post on trackers. I am a Private Investigator and ex DI from a specialist function. I have been doing covert surveillance in the police and as a Private Investigator for eighteen years. I know a bit about trackers because for that length of time, it has been my main tool of the trade. I have tried and tested everything on the market.
The problem is with these things, is that there are a lot of cheap Chinese trackers out there. Also a lot of the tracking firms use devices with an annual fee or where you have to send them back to get the battery changed.
The ones I use are small, not expensive (under £500) and cheap to run. I estimate a boat will cost £1 a week for the SIM costs. There is a battery meter online, so when it's low on battery, I get plenty of warning, plug it in to the mains and 12 hours later, it's fully charged. They are fully waterproof.
Just be careful about buying cheap stuff, you pay a lot more in the long run and will have battery or signal failures.
I just use the best stuff there is. It's a bit like being a mechanic, you don't buy 'Twazzer bargain tools' you buy 'Snap-on.
If you need details, private message me. Good luck, Phil.
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