What boating qualifications do you have?

[treerat]

Originally Posted by Jono

Go on... enlighten me... who issues a "blue light licence"... and who needs one?

Originally Posted by m chappelow

i dident think you needed one as at one time anyone could drive with a blue light ,its only the authoritys that send people out on blue light DRIVING training courses so that it covers them in case of accident .

These days t's illegal to drive on blues without one - I use mine for the Fire Engine and our medic response van. Also when in Gosport for the landrover or tractor.

Got one for my boat as well - some events we have to use them - livens up the river

[Poly]

Originally Posted by treerat

These days t's illegal to drive on blues without one -

I love the internet for misinformation

[John Kennett]

"There is no authority that issues permission to use blue, green or amber lights on your vehicle. You must just follow the law."

All the info here

[chewy]

I'm sure if you look into the law though your not allowed to display a blue light, only certain vehicles are.
The only coloured lights allowed on a "normal" car are red, white and amber.
You can also get done for impersonating a Police car.

[PeterM]

Originally Posted by chewy

I'm sure if you look into the law though your not allowed to display a blue light, only certain vehicles are.
The only coloured lights allowed on a "normal" car are red, white and amber.
You can also get done for impersonating a Police car.

What about green if you are a doc ??????

[m chappelow]

i know the law changed a few years back stating that only fixed blue flashing lights can now be fitted and not the magnetic ones ,and flashing blue can now only be used on an actual dedicated emergency vehicle ,,some local plod and fire has had to have the blue lights removed and amber lights fitted to there non emergency vans, eg /checking fire hydrants and community coppers, its also illegal to drive with flashing amber lights even when towing or on the back of a recovery truck unless its very slow or very large .,,wonder how many r.n.l.i tractor drivers have a blue light licence ..i know some lifeboat crews in busy towns wanted to use blue/green flashing lights on their cars as some aux fire do when on a shout but it was frowned upon rnli .

[Poly]

Originally Posted by m chappelow

wonder how many r.n.l.i tractor drivers have a blue light licence .

there is no such thing, individual organisations may have their own training programmes that they insist upon (and they may or may not then recognise each others training) - you might get a "certificate" but there is no "license" nor is their a legal requirement for such a thing.

[m chappelow]

Originally Posted by Polwart

there is no such thing, individual organisations may have their own training programmes that they insist upon (and they may or may not then recognise each others training) - you might get a "certificate" but there is no "license" nor is their a legal requirement for such a thing.

yep thats what i thought ,,,,,like the local firestation used to put their drivers through a h.g.v test ,,even though its not needed as a fire engine is an emergency vehicle and not a goods vehicle .,,,though they said they might have to move a truck at sometime ...though really it was another way of getting another job on the side .

[nik]

Originally Posted by Rogue Wave

You have an rya powerboat 2 this will convert int an International Certificate of Competence ICC which is cool for France, the poerboat 2 can be converted by the rya for a cost of 35:00 or fre f you are a member. There iare details on the RYA website.

I have one of these and tried to use it to hire a rib in france. I might as well have passed the owner a beer mat with my photograph stuck to it for all the good it did me.

[treerat]

Originally Posted by m chappelow

yep thats what i thought ,,,,,like the local firestation used to put their drivers through a h.g.v test ,,even though its not needed as a fire engine is an emergency vehicle and not a goods vehicle .,,,though they said they might have to move a truck at sometime ...though really it was another way of getting another job on the side .

But without the LGV you can't take it out to get fuel. As it's only an emergency vehicle when it's under blue light conditions.

Otherwise it's just a 12 ton red lorry

EFAD - Emergency Fire Apliance Driver is the qualification held by drivers.

[Jono]

God there's some bollix posted on here..ain't there?

Kids, amateurs and "Wannabe Hero" types driving round in vehicles with blue lights...fair boils my piss it does........Feck 'em all off and use professionals. What say you Mr Manning?




(Please note, this post is made after several bottles of Budvar…and specifically excludes all those brave fecka’s who turn out for the RLNI….)

[Bigmuz7]

Aye it could make you convert to a hard boat forum now that would be a reason to phone the emergency services

[JSP]

Got a second letter off me mam saying 'Where's that tenner?"

[CJL]

Originally Posted by John Kennett

"There is no authority that issues permission to use blue, green or amber lights on your vehicle. You must just follow the law."

All the info here

Hmm probably all right but I've rarely seen most of those rules being followed!

[Rogue Wave]

Originally Posted by nik

I have one of these and tried to use it to hire a rib in france. I might as well have passed the owner a beer mat with my photograph stuck to it for all the good it did me.

So what do you need. did you need

[nik]

Originally Posted by Rogue Wave

So what do you need. did you need

You needed the equivalent french quilification, whatever that was.
the ICC meant absolutely nothing to this guy.

[Rogue Wave]

so I take it that he didn't tell you what it was, but that was for hiring. Also where they his rules or the law.

Am i stil correct in thinking that you can drive your own boat on an ICC

[nik]

Originally Posted by Rogue Wave

so I take it that he didn't tell you what it was, but that was for hiring. Also where they his rules or the law.

Am i stil correct in thinking that you can drive your own boat on an ICC

I am certain if you had your own boat, there would be no problem, this was on the sea by the way.
The proprietor wanted to see some form of qualification, this was a relatively powerful rib. His command of english and my command of french left something to be desired. But I dont think he had ever seen or heard of an ICC. So for legal reasons I presume he needed something that he recognised.
What makes me laugh though is the french inland waterways requirement for anyone using their waterways to have a CEVNI qualification. UNLESS, you are a holidaymaker hiring a boat, where a bit of instruction will suffice.

[SeaSkills]

Originally Posted by nik

You needed the equivalent french quilification, whatever that was.

There are three Permit Categories in France. These only apply if the boat's engine is greater than 6hp (CV in French) - no licence is required for engines <6hp.

1/ La Carte Mer: for a boat with a motor from 6CV to 50CV. This is a permit for daytime sailing within a 9Km range of the coast, awarded after taking a theory course and practical lessons, and passing a test.

2/ Le Permis Mer Côtier: for boats with motors 50CV and up. This permit allows night sailing, but within a limited range from the coast, and is awarded after a course and test.

3/ Le Permis Mer Hauturier: This is gained through a full boating course at a boat school, and covers all forms of boating.

The International Certificate of Competence (ICC)
The skippers of British Registered boats – motor or sail – do not require an International Certificate of Competence (ICC) when sailing in French coastal waters.
If you are planning to use the French canals and rivers, the boat's skipper must have an ICC certificate valid for Inland Waters (having passed the CEVNI exam). However, if you are planning to charter or use a French registered boat, you may need an ICC - although this is not universally recognised.

[tonymac]

RYA PB Lvl 2

I need to do the VHF course soon.