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29 September 2004, 00:18
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Town: Beverley
Boat name: TBA
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I'm thinking about putting the Vetus tank in and then putting the original tank under a new console as I will have a 60 mile round trip to fill up with fuel.
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29 September 2004, 08:18
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Country: UK - England
Town: Plymouth
Boat name: 2XS
Make: Halmatic Pacific 24
Length: 7m +
Engine: 135hp Honda X2
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I'm thinking about putting the Vetus tank in and then putting the original tank under a new console as I will have a 60 mile round trip to fill up with fuel.
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The guy i talked to in Dartmouth who teaches the matlo's to drive Pac's, said they work on a range of 90 miles on a standard tank, flat out, i don't think mine would do that, think i would get about 70 ish miles.
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29 September 2004, 08:41
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Country: UK - England
Town: Gosport
Boat name: April Lass
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Roohairy
The guy i talked to in Dartmouth who teaches the matlo's to drive Pac's, said they work on a range of 90 miles on a standard tank, flat out, i don't think mine would do that, think i would get about 70 ish miles.
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Agreed, the previous owner of Old Spice just made Alderney from Lymington, about 70 miles. The weight of an extra 100 litres isn't going to effect the outstanding performance 
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29 September 2004, 09:01
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Pete, when you plumbed the new tank in, did you use copper fuel pipe or change it for flexi/rubber?
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29 September 2004, 10:24
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I used Merc/Mariner grey flexible fuel line and drilled an additional 3 holes in the engine bay to fuel tank area to take the lines to the fuel pump.
Ideally use ISO 7840 hose which would then pass a survey for commerical work in the future if you ever decided to go down this route and again would save having to replace it. I got away with the Merc stuff because a clause in the Yellow code says fuel lines should be ISO 7840 or changed to this standard when next replaced.
Copper pipe and salt water would worry me 
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29 September 2004, 10:53
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Country: UK - England
Town: Over here
Boat name: S.S. Nobstick
Make: Three Wise Monkeys
Length: 3m +
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Copper pipe and salt water would worry me
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Why? I can understand vibration and work-hardening being an issue and rupture strengths, etc, but why is salt water an issue with copper pipe? I thought it was perfectly suitable for use in sea water including in immersion. Have I missed something? 
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29 September 2004, 11:19
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Jono, I was thinking about corrosion of a pipe hidden under deck which can't be seen, but you raised an equally valid point on vibration. Fitting any fixed pipe would also be a nightmare unless the engine is out.
Pete
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29 September 2004, 12:21
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Town: Beverley
Boat name: TBA
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I'm not 100% sure but I think any boat that has to have a BSS as mine will has to have rigid fireproof piping except for a flexible connection to the engine. I've never heard of anyone having problems with copper, either for steering hydraulics or fuel.
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29 September 2004, 12:36
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Country: UK - England
Town: nr Lymington
Boat name: JU-JU
Make: Halmatic PAC22
Length: 6m +
Engine: 140.5 Mermaid
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Copper on its own will corrode happily in salt water going a lovely shade of blue,  I suspect that a lot of people are using Copper nickel without realising it  . Copper nickel offers better resistance to corrosion and is commonly used for things like brake pipes etc Des
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29 September 2004, 13:05
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OK, so insurance and coding wise etc, can i definately go with flexi fuel hose?
It seems a lot simpler to use, maintain and route!!
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29 September 2004, 13:21
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Country: UK - England
Town: nr Lymington
Boat name: JU-JU
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OK, so insurance and coding wise etc, can i definately go with flexi fuel hose?
It seems a lot simpler to use, maintain and route!!
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Am I right to think that your engine is out at the moment? If so go with copper Ni pipe. They meet the coding and are safer. I find it is so much easier bending and fixing Cu Ni piping because it wants to hold its shape. If you have the engine in place, what Pete7 says makes sense because it’s a b****r getting down in font of the engine.
Also Cu NI pipe is cheap 
Des
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29 September 2004, 13:48
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Will go copper then as i dont even own an engine at the moment - ive got all the space in the world to play with so neither method really bothers me. Was just looking for the best option.
Thanks
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29 September 2004, 14:16
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Copper on its own will corrode happily in salt water going a lovely shade of blue, .... |
Just being a bit of an "anorak" here, but for information, if anyone's at all interested ... the Cupro Nickels 10-30% Ni are better at resisting corrosion in high velocity salt water applications up to 15 Fps but in the Galveston Bay tests at 1-2 Fps the corrosion rate between CuNi and Cu was identical.....Yeah, yeah I know!...I'll get my coat.. TAXI
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30 September 2004, 01:58
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Town: Beverley
Boat name: TBA
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Like tungum, bl**dy expensive!
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08 October 2004, 11:43
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: nr Lymington
Boat name: JU-JU
Make: Halmatic PAC22
Length: 6m +
Engine: 140.5 Mermaid
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So much talk about these boats, what are they? Any body got a photo?
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And this is a P22 rescuing the Canadian Sub I think it had some help but it still had to do the tricky stuff
If you saw how rough it was on the news you have to admire those submarine chaps, it must have been rolling to 50 or 60 degrees, not nice in an open boat but stuffed inside a steel tube
It turns out that we sold the Canadians this Sub wonder if they got an AA inspection first. 
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