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Old 09 April 2007, 15:57   #1
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What is the shelf life for Hypalon 2 part glue

Purchased 5 ltrs to stick the tubes on with in December 06, always stored inside, did a minor repair last week, prep'd area well mixed up as normal applied 3 coats (thinly) with the appropiate waiting times, then went togeather perfect.

But went out for half a day, took it out the water and found both strips hanging loose.

Does the glue go off?
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Old 09 April 2007, 16:47   #2
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Hopefully someone who actually knows something will chime in, but I've found that older glue (especially previously opened cans) thicken too much to be useful. Not a matter of adhesion, rather I find it's workability.

Though, to be fair, I don't have unused cans of the stuff lying around, so it's not the best experience to apply to your case.

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Old 09 April 2007, 18:22   #3
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...I've found that older glue (especially previously opened cans) thicken too much to be useful. Not a matter of adhesion, rather I find it's workability. jky
Yeh, I agree with jky. In desparation, I've even used glue that's set to stretchy in the tin and softened it with thinners. I used it to glue handles on fully expecting it to be less than good. Well, they're still there after 4 years and I often use them for mooring to a pontoon or ladder.

It sounds to me as though there is something else awry.
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Old 10 April 2007, 12:42   #4
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the glue still has the same consistancy as new, i am careful to add the catalyst to it in the correct quantities.

what i dont want to do is throw away the 2 1/2 ltrs ive got left, but at the same time i dont want to keep doing the same job over and over again.

another question? is there a right or wrong side of the hypalon to use, both my colours are very close to each other one side being darker?
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Old 10 April 2007, 14:07   #5
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Hi Ian
Did you abrade the surfaces and wipe clean with thinners to make sure there was no oil etc there ?
hopefully one of the tube manufacturers on here will be able to give you a better answer.
If you do a search there was a how too done on patches
good luck
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Old 10 April 2007, 15:54   #6
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another question? is there a right or wrong side of the hypalon to use, both my colours are very close to each other one side being darker?
I am under the impression that hypalon fabric consists of an outer layer of hypalon, a fabric reinforcement, and an inner layer of neoprene for airtightness.

I don't know how you'd tell the difference between the two layers.

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Old 10 April 2007, 17:17   #7
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cheers jyasaki

thats what i suspected, im probley stuck the wrong side down!!!!
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...thats what i suspected, im probley stuck the wrong side down!!!!
But the adhesive will adhere to both types of surface, thats how you can make an overlap seam.
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Very true, Mr. Walker.

I would suspect surface prep as the culprit (or rather, lack or poor execution thereof.)

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Moisture.
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