Which one? yamaha 75hp or Evinrude 75 etec

zubol · 24 April 2015, 12:36

Hello guys,

I need your advice again

I have found 2 nice second hand outboards.
First, Yamaha 75hp 2 storke from 2012
Second, Evinrude 75hp e-tec from 2011

The price for them is the same...
Which of them I should take? I have Avon searider 5.4

Thanks a lot for your tips.

jeffstevens763@g · 24 April 2015, 12:42

i would go yam myself OMO

Ajt108 · 24 April 2015, 12:54

I have a Yamaha 75 2 stroke and love it!

Pikey Dave · 24 April 2015, 12:59

I'd go Etec, the 75hp has a strong reputation for punching way above its weight.

.....sh1t happens.......

matt h · 24 April 2015, 13:41

Quote:

No no no PD..

Yam 75. Bullet proof hence the RNLI use em and u know it will work every time.
Also SR s are ideal for 120 kgs of yam. Not the 145 dry weight of a etec. They have a narrow hull and will be unbalanced with this overweight unreliable bit evinrude junk.
Even the new YAmaha four stroke 70s are only 119 kgs so im am suprised that the etec is so much heavier when the etec blurb bleats on about being so light!!
With these new G2 varients they are tring to reinvent the wheel so to speak. They should concentrate making the current stock more reliable..

Whats a tidy 10 year old Yam 75 worth 3k poss ( 5k when new)
What about an old etec ? Scrap poss as nothing would work on it.
Nasty etecs!��
This bloke felt so strongly about the unreliability etc he wrote a song!!

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NWcqLjVxK_k

zubol · 24 April 2015, 14:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt h

Yam 75. Bullet proof hence the RNLI use em and u know it will work every time.
Also SR s are ideal for 120 kgs of yam. Not the 145 dry weight of a etec. They have a narrow hull and will be unbalanced with this overweight unreliable bit evinrude junk.
Even the new YAmaha four stroke 70s are only 119 kgs so im am suprised that the etec is so much heavier when the etec blurb bleats on about being so light!!
With these new G2 varients they are tring to reinvent the wheel so to speak. They should concentrate making the current stock more reliable..

Whats a tidy 10 year old Yam 75 worth 3k poss ( 5k when new)
What about an old etec ? Scrap poss as nothing would work on it.
Nasty etecs!��
This bloke felt so strongly about the unreliability etc he wrote a song!!

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NWcqLjVxK_k

What about technology? is not evinrude more advance? I mean by that fuel consumption and noise?

matt h · 24 April 2015, 14:51

Weight is the more important issue with the SR..25 kgs more than a old proven workhorse is not moving forward with technology at all.. More unreliable and expensive two stroke oil. Its a little more economical than the yam but half the time it will have a lap top plugged into it trying to make the thing run right.
Etecs don't run if its too hot or too cold
If the Spark plugs are 5 degrees out.
If the Battery cable isn't gold plated and done up with a 500lb torque wrench

so

Workshop or playtime??

paddlers · 24 April 2015, 14:53

As an occasional boater I'd always go for the Yamaha. For me they're better known. spares might be more readily available and they have a reputation for being bulletproof. My personal favourites seem to be Mercury/Mariner but I've also had Chrysler,Yamaha and a Tohatsu.
Each to his own but I dislike too much technology, I prefer old school reliability .

Last Tango · 24 April 2015, 16:10

Only ever owned one Yam outboard and it had to go. Every visit to the dealer, all he ever said was "sorry part has been deleted","sorry part has been deleted", "sorry part has been deleted", "sorry part has been deleted"...........got sick of having to get parts made for it !

matt h · 24 April 2015, 16:14

Ha ha parts made?? . What model would that be then?

Last Tango · 24 April 2015, 16:39

6hp.....It was about ten years old. The recoil starter fell apart and I couldn't get the pawls or a couple of the small springs and a spacer that got lost......(washer about 8mm thick).
I know it was an old engine but I've never had problems getting parts even for 30 year old Mercs and Jonnyrudes.

matt h · 24 April 2015, 16:49

Going slightly off track here but just checked availability of those parts for a manual start Yam 6hp 2004/05 and all available (have to order it via authorised dealership) you bin spun a yarn by either someone who cant be arsed in earning £5 in the sale of some parts or they have no idea how to order parts.

Last Tango · 24 April 2015, 17:04

About ten years ago so try 94/95. However I'm not having a specific go at Yamaha. I think given the choice he has I'd probably go for the Yam. I've seen to many Etecs advertised for sale using phrases like "totally rebuilt", "New ECM unit" and that to me begs the question...why did it need rebuilt?, why did it need a new ECM?. I've heard tale of a frightening issue one Etec had that the dealer couldn't replicate or establish the cause.
My comment's re Yamaha are just to point out that they are not without sin.

zubol · 24 April 2015, 19:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Last Tango

About ten years ago so try 94/95. However I'm not having a specific go at Yamaha. I think given the choice he has I'd probably go for the Yam. I've seen to many Etecs advertised for sale using phrases like "totally rebuilt", "New ECM unit" and that to me begs the question...why did it need rebuilt?, why did it need a new ECM?. I've heard tale of a frightening issue one Etec had that the dealer couldn't replicate or establish the cause.
My comment's re Yamaha are just to point out that they are not without sin.

OK thanks a lot guys... It looks like I will go for Yami...
In your opinion how much is it worth? It's 75HP from 2012.

and on what should I paid attention when I will buying it?

spartacus · 24 April 2015, 21:04

Yamaha all the way. 2012 model is pretty unusual, so should be mint.

Festinghouse · 24 April 2015, 21:19

buy a compression tester - theyre cheap enough and can tell you if the block and pistons are as they should. 5 or 10mins to take out plugs and do the test

BogMonster · 26 April 2015, 10:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt h

Its a little more economical than the yam but half the time it will have a lap top plugged into it trying to make the thing run right.
Etecs don't run if its too hot or too cold
If the Spark plugs are 5 degrees out.
If the Battery cable isn't gold plated and done up with a 500lb torque wrench

so

Workshop or playtime??

A bit unfair! Can't say I have tried it 'too hot' but I can assure you they have no problem running in 0C air temp and 4C water temp in the winter here.

I had a Johnson 115 two smoke on the same size rib before this and the fuel consumption of the much bigger 150 E-TEC is significantly less than the old 115 was - like 20-30% less - pushing a hull that is definitely heavier and probably less efficient than the old Humber was. The saving in fuel consumption more than offsets the extra cost of the XD100 oil.

I've no more desire to go back to that than I have to put a 2.25 diesel in my Land Rover.

Max Swell · 27 April 2015, 23:10

Evinrude all the way ... Great winterisation program 10 mins max. Always starts, good performance

Seen me right so far go for what you think is best for you....both are good engines IMHO

zubol · 28 April 2015, 20:07

On Saturday I am going to see Yamaha.
I am going to check: Engine compression, oil color in lower part, color of spark plugs, incidence of any corrosion. Anything else?

The Evinrude turned out to be from April 2009 instead of 2011, so I think it should not be taken into consideration any more.

Other thing - how is the best way to transport engine? Can I put in inside trunk?The weight is 120kg so two people could put in/out from/to trunk.
Am I right???