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08 October 2015, 21:23
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Which side ensign?
So. New rib, ensign on the left or the right..? I believe convention is starboard?
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08 October 2015, 21:30
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Courtesy flag to starboard ensign stern
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08 October 2015, 21:31
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Ah yes, certainly on the stern, but which side on the transom?
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08 October 2015, 21:34
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You've got me there as most boats nowadays favour centre I think I really don't see a lot to starboard. Hope you find the correct answer
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08 October 2015, 21:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Nobby
Ah yes, certainly on the stern, but which side on the transom?
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Starboard. :thumbup:
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08 October 2015, 22:11
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Flag Etiquette | Regulations | Information & Advice | RYA
Hilarious reading:
"More than one flag may be flown on a halyard except that flag etiquette states that no flag can be above the burgee on the same halyard and no flag can be worn above the courtesy flag. If you fly a burgee at the starboard spreaders and are sailing in the territorial waters of another country this presents something of a dilemma, particularly if you must fly a burgee to match a special Ensign. Unless the burgee is in its traditional position at the masthead, you risk flouting one or another element of flag etiquette. How you choose to resolve this is a matter of choice."
I know how I'd solve THAT dilemma!
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08 October 2015, 23:54
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Thanks for the words of advice. The RYA pamphlet does not mention port or starboard; just as aft as possible.
Job done - electrics on the starboard for pole light, so ensign will go on the port side.
Result, thanks
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09 October 2015, 03:21
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I always fly ensign on port and any courtesy (or Q flag) on starboard: see the photo at the top of the page (which was taken while we were crossing Baie de la Seine with French courtesy flag showing on the right. Ensign is on the left.). I recall that the original reason for my flag positioning was the result of research undertaken - but so long ago now that I can't remember where I got the information from!
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09 October 2015, 07:20
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I fly mine on the port side. Makes me come across all Jack Hawkins when I see it flapping!
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09 October 2015, 11:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spartacus
I fly mine on the port side. Makes me come across all Jack Hawkins when I see it flapping!
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That's got to be a good enough reason for ANYONE!
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09 October 2015, 11:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spartacus
I fly mine on the port side. Makes me come across all Jack Hawkins when I see it flapping!
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Snorkers! Good oh!
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09 October 2015, 12:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Snorkers! Good oh!
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God Dave you've watched to much Cruel Sea
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09 October 2015, 12:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jambo
God Dave you've watched to much Cruel Sea
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Got it on DVD, quality
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09 October 2015, 19:48
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Ensigns and other Flags
When flown at the mast, flags to the starboard side of the mast, are considered superior to flags at the port side, ie courtesy ensigns are worn to starboard, house flags to port. National Ensigns are traditionally worn at the stern at the taff rail, with a few exceptions, and normally on the centre vessel line. If worn to one side, I would suggest tradition suggests it is worn in the starboard quarter.
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09 October 2015, 19:56
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Thanks Steve. I kind of agree - the ensign on my Broom is to starboard on the pushpit and my jet rib had one built-in to starboard. However, I have am now going for port as I need the electrics for the light pole to starboard.
They are both the transom, not on an A-frame, so limited in choice.
Thanks everyone, appreciated.
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09 October 2015, 20:48
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Mines on Stbd side of A frame
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