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24 August 2018, 17:52
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220l - 200hp. Interesting observation but surely a sign of an idle mind!
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24 August 2018, 18:21
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115 hp (max rated150) .......246litres. florida built ,petrol must be cheaper there .
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24 August 2018, 21:31
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At build - 140hp 90 litres
Now - 240hp 150 litres
Whilst there is a correlation - bigger engine = more fuel, I'd say there are probably a few factors that influence it - purpose for example - daughter craft = 0.5 * power, recreational = 1.0 * power, SAR = 1.5 * power. Geographic area might have an influence.
It would be quite an interesting exercise to do.
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24 August 2018, 22:39
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150hp just removed the old 90litre tank
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24 August 2018, 23:43
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Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
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53 litres and 70hp. I cry a little when I fill it.
Those with 200 litres+... I'd need a crash team on the forecourt during a fuel top up!
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24 August 2018, 23:57
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53 litres and 70hp. I cry a little when I fill it.
Those with 200 litres+... I'd need a crash team on the forecourt during a fuel top up!
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The first time I filled mine up on a forecourt from empty a woman was complaining to the cashier about me blocking 2 pumps.
The cashier said 'He can do what he wants, he's just bought more fuel than the last 10 cars.'
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25 August 2018, 00:06
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Interesting observation but surely a sign of an idle mind!
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Absolutely. I just hit on the notion the other day. It was something Nos said that piqued my interest. I think, for RIBs, that's it a happy co-incidence. It won't apply to Diesel rigs or Special purpose craft. But it's there or thereabouts for most petrol RIBs...
I suspect.
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25 August 2018, 09:33
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Town: Chesterfield
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180ltrs 150hp 4S [emoji106]
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25 August 2018, 13:30
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Country: UK - England
Town: Gloucester
Boat name: Lunasea
Make: Ribcraft
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90l v.140HP - the exception that proves the rule!
Still good range - 120NM.
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25 August 2018, 20:17
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Country: UK - England
Town: Kent and Suffolk UK
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Engine: 2 O/B Suzuki DF90ATL
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When the Fox was in service (as it were) she had 2x75's v.s 2x81 litre tanks
it closer now i have upped the HP to 90's - perhaps subconsciously i was thinking the same thing when i bought them...
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25 August 2018, 20:21
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...and as for the forecourt gag - the other week i was asked to hurry up (in Mallaig) as he wanted to close up at 2.00pm for the (Saturday) afternoon. Half the problem is his pumps won't let you put more than £100 in at a time. Nice bloke but he knows he has a monopoly...
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26 August 2018, 15:44
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Wet Sunday afternoon task - shows how bored I am unable to rib - tipping with rain and have snapped bicep tendon (ouch).
Wilk rule of thumb 2 seems pretty accurate on the 32 rib sample on this thread....Fuel tank size in litres is 0.92 of associated Engine HP.
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26 August 2018, 19:41
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Even if I did that maths I'm not sure I'd admit to it.
BTW, what was the Standard Deviation?
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27 August 2018, 00:41
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Wilk rule of thumb 2 seems pretty accurate on the 32 rib sample on this thread....
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Why thank you Mister Terrier. The willkcraft is 450L/370hp - but then, she's rated for 500hp.....
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27 August 2018, 00:42
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What was Law#1 though?
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Same as Pikey Dave's
His might be a Rule. Then again, mine is more of a Guideline...
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27 August 2018, 10:23
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Mr Willk could you please advise the propulsion on the Willkcraft? Single or double diesels into stern drives or more exotic??
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27 August 2018, 10:30
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Graph below - pretty close. left the one obvious outlier Orwell Boy's 245l-115HP in as this is rule of thumb. with that out, it correlation goes up to 0.95.
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27 August 2018, 12:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lakelandterrier
Graph below - pretty close. left the one obvious outlier Orwell Boy's 245l-115HP in as this is rule of thumb. with that out, it correlation goes up to 0.95.
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As with many “laws” I suspect many misunderstood it though. Certainly some of the data points are for the actual HP they have fitted not the maximum outboard HP the hull is rated for as originally proposed!
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27 August 2018, 12:54
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Mr Willk could you please advise the propulsion on the Willkcraft? Single or double diesels into stern drives or more exotic??
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Since he’s not around - he runs a single diesel through a standard stern drive.
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27 August 2018, 13:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poly
As with many “laws” I suspect many misunderstood it though. Certainly some of the data points are for the actual HP they have fitted not the maximum outboard HP the hull is rated for as originally proposed!
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I think you’ll find it was “recommended” petrol HP
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