Winch Advice

gibbo500 · 16 July 2009, 21:39

Hi chaps,

I am looking at buying a winch to pull my boat up a very steep drive way about 25 feet.

Was looking at a decent hand winch but would also consider a 12v cheapish electric winch if they are any good?

Any advice much appreciated.

Nos4r2 · 16 July 2009, 21:45

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Originally Posted by gibbo500

Hi chaps,

I am looking at buying a winch to pull my boat up a very steep drive way about 25 feet.

Was looking at a decent hand winch but would also consider a 12v cheapish electric winch if they are any good?

Any advice much appreciated.

Get an electric one. I only ever winched a boat by hand up a slipway once-and that was a big winch!
Sod doing it again!

mike-m · 16 July 2009, 23:03

Hi,

Have just gone down the same route - large RIB, tight entrance through gate then steep slope up to hardstanding!

I used these guys - bought a 12000EB with wireless remote:

http://www.winchsolutions.co.uk/inde...id1=0&catid2=6

Main problem I had was building a concrete plinth heavy enough to mount the winch onto.... the winch pulled the first one out of the ground!!

One piece of advice - make sure the slope you are pulling up is smooth and solid. Mine is hardcore and the wheels of the trailer sink in, making the pull a LOT harder! Putting in concrete ramps - but sounds like you won't have this problem...

Good luck

Mike

Leapy · 17 July 2009, 05:55

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Originally Posted by gibbo500

Hi chaps, I am looking at buying a winch to pull my boat up a very steep drive way about 25 feet.

Was looking at a decent hand winch but would also consider a 12v cheapish electric winch if they are any good?

Any advice much appreciated.

THESE guys at the Electric Winch Shop were very helpful

Note that their prices are based somewhat on how many of what type they shift rather than smallest is cheapest.

I've mounted mine - 12v, 10,000lbs rated, rope rather than cable, over-specced but a good price - at the back of the garage and pull the boat backwards up the driveway slope and straight in. Saves all the tedious hernias and f-ing and blind-ing. It's effectively the type of thing you see bolted to the front of a Land Rover. It also comes with a remote: useful as you can then steer the trailer from the jockey wheel whilst controlling the winch.

If you call them, tell them what you want to do and they'll advise the best package. Not sure what you mean by 'cheapish' though...this route is at least a couple of hundred quid plus a decent 12v battery, plus some big f**k off rawl bolts to hold the bugger down to the garage floor

gibbo500 · 17 July 2009, 08:40

Thanks guys will make some enquiries.

C2 RIBS · 17 July 2009, 09:56

Look at a previous post.- http://rib.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24046

and e bay http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_t...All-Categories

You will see I had an elctric 12 v winch which I used to move a 6.5 rib up a slipway onto the van. Very slow but took grief away when it was too slippery. I still have the boxed unit but do not use it now as larger boats on dry stack. If it is of use let me know for a keen price- similar to this on e bay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/POWERFUL-6000-...3A1%7C294%3A50

codprawn · 17 July 2009, 14:26

Nothing wrong with hand winches - just the modern ones are crap.

They manage to operate mines and big ships with them years ago!!!

I remember using one when I was a kid - once you got the flywheel spinning it was so easy - different matter stopping it though!!!

JSP · 17 July 2009, 14:29

Slip I'm using is a pain when the tide is anything below 8m high water. Lots or slime on the slip and deep mud at the bottom. Can get the wheels smoking trying to pull the trailer and boat out of the mud.
Thought about getting one of these
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hand-Puller-Tu...%3A1|294%3A200

Leapy · 17 July 2009, 14:36

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Originally Posted by codprawn

Nothing wrong with hand winches - just the modern ones are crap

You trying tell us this is your trailer winch?

codprawn · 17 July 2009, 15:21

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Originally Posted by JSP

Slip I'm using is a pain when the tide is anything below 8m high water. Lots or slime on the slip and deep mud at the bottom. Can get the wheels smoking trying to pull the trailer and boat out of the mud.
Thought about getting one of these
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hand-Puller-Tu...%3A1|294%3A200

They are crap and NOT a turfer or tirfor. The problem with them is you are limited by the length of wire - with a tirfor if you have 300' of wire you can winch 300'.

This is a tirfor

http://www.landroverclub.net/Club/HT...ry_Tirfor1.htm

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_t...All-Categories

I have 4 different sizes - they are awesome - very safe and the big ones are far more powerful than an electric winch on a Land Rover - got a lot more uses to.

Even the very smallest which is rated at 300kgs managed to pull a stretched limo up a very steep drive. The biggest are used by firebrigades in all sorts of rescue situation. The army also use them for recovery stuck Bedford 4x4s etc.

They do have one big problem though - they are VERY slow - would take about 15 mins to pull something up a short slip. Great to carry if you get stuck though.

I once had to rescue a mate who got his Land Rover stuck in the middle of a forest on an army excercise. Called me out to save getting a bollocking.

Bet you wish you hadn't asked now.............

JSP · 17 July 2009, 15:27

I couldn't justify spending all that on winch to just get the RIB 4ft up a slip Codders, but thanks for the info. They look a great bit of kit.
Like I say I wouldn't need very much length.

codprawn · 17 July 2009, 15:30

Maybe a wire puller thing would be ok then.

My smallest tirfor fits in an aluminium toolbox/briefcase. I always carry it around with me. Was very handy getting someone's Toyota Pious out of a very deep ditch. I don't know why 007 doesn't carry one - what a gadget!!!

JSP · 17 July 2009, 16:43

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Originally Posted by codprawn

... Was very handy getting someone's Toyota Pious out of a very deep ditch. .....

You a one man rescue team Cod?

codprawn · 17 July 2009, 17:17

Nah the idiot was in front of me on a very narrow road - I would have had a 1 mile reverse!!!

Also I got stuck once when I had a very pretty girl with me - ended up flat on my back in deep mud which she found highly amusing. I now carry a tirfor and an anchor so even if there are no trees about I can still winch myself out. Funny thing is since I started carrying them never got myself stuck again...............

Leapy · 17 July 2009, 17:41

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Originally Posted by codprawn

My smallest tirfor fits in an aluminium toolbox/briefcase. I always carry it around with me.

Dare I ask...what else do you carry that might just be needed? I'm now really interested

gibbo500 · 20 July 2009, 21:33

Do you think this would be man enough to drag up steep driveway? Appreciate it wouldn't be too fast but i am close to killing or injuring myself manhandling my boat so need something quick.

Was thinking of getting the towball attachment and bolting a tow ball to the wall to mount it on as i don't want anything fixed.

Advice much appreciated.

http://www.winchsolutions.co.uk/inde...-B7BECFB42744}

codprawn · 20 July 2009, 21:38

Easy - it doesn't take much to move a rolling road - it's when stuff gets in the way the fun starts.

Poly · 20 July 2009, 22:11

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Originally Posted by JSP

I couldn't justify spending all that on winch to just get the RIB 4ft up a slip Codders, but thanks for the info. They look a great bit of kit.
Like I say I wouldn't need very much length.

Can you not use the winch on the front of your trailer for that? (i've never tried so there may be some really obvious reason why not)

bedajim · 20 July 2009, 22:20

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Originally Posted by gibbo500

Do you think this would be man enough to drag up steep driveway? Appreciate it wouldn't be too fast but i am close to killing or injuring myself manhandling my boat so need something quick.

Was thinking of getting the towball attachment and bolting a tow ball to the wall to mount it on as i don't want anything fixed.

Advice much appreciated.

http://www.winchsolutions.co.uk/index.asp?action=showproduct&id={C550BE13-FFF8-4A23-BF3E-B7BECFB42744}

I'd go for the next one up, its only a few pounds more. Forget the steel wire and get synthetic rope with the roller fairlead

I have this one with the wireless remote

C8000EWX 12V Winch

For this, works everytime even if we drop off the end of the slip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q78MW4wSMKs

gibbo500 · 20 July 2009, 22:33

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Originally Posted by Polwart

Can you not use the winch on the front of your trailer for that? (i've never tried so there may be some really obvious reason why not)

That's what i have been doing but as the strap is not long enough i have to winch, chock and reconnect. It is bloody hard work and also time consuming and i think the winch is about to give up.

Sorry Polwart just re read your quote.