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03 May 2021, 19:34
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: Cesa
Length: no boat
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 247
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Originally Posted by smallribber
A bow dodger made of clear material might do the trick. I have one on my sib and was amazed at the difference it makes
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On a Scorpion ? [emoji848]
Each to their own but I’m guessing the OP won’t go down that particular road.
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03 May 2021, 20:25
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Dorset
Boat name: Seabadger 2
Make: Delta / Ribcraft 6.8
Length: 7m +
Engine: Various
MMSI: -
Join Date: May 2010
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Been taking my lad out since he was a few months old. Windscreen above all else. Makes such a difference for little people. Another recommendation whatever pfd / lifejacket you get them allow them to test if out in a swimming pool and get used to it, understand why they wear it. My lad loves his buoyancy aid now and asks to put it on when he is swimming in the sea despite being a very confident swimming in pools etc. Finding one that has good buoyancy and head support / floating orientation without being too bulky is key too, we have found some of the decathalon ones are good.
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03 May 2021, 20:32
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: north ayrshire
Boat name: charlie girl
Make: S/R5.4/regal3760
Length: 10m +
Engine: Suzukidf70 2x6lp 315
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 4,027
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Originally Posted by Maximus
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In that case a Windscreen should be Top Priority!
Keep the RIB...heavy...slamming...thirsty....bad handling/sea keeping Hardboat will just give you other problems to contend with..A decent screen will make a Big difference!
......Warm wether will soon be with us
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Thats just natural progression with a family!
That heavy slammy poor handling boat becomes a haven when your sat in your favourite anchorage & its pissing down & your sat with your feet up & the heater on.
The time I appreciated the hard boat the most was climbing back onboard with 4 of my pals after a frosty new years day dive & sitting next to the heater with a hot cuppa and a bacon roll.
Ribs are great............But sometimes not so great too ,
Theres pros & cons for all boats.
Well except sailboats maybe[emoji6]
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04 May 2021, 08:51
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Farnborough
Boat name: Narcissus
Make: Cobra
Length: 7m +
Engine: Optimax 225
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,364
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There's pros and cons for sailboats too.
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Originally Posted by beamishken
Theres pros & cons for all boats.
Well except sailboats maybe[emoji6]
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04 May 2021, 09:31
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Wild West
Boat name: No Boat
Make: No Boat
Length: under 3m
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 5,306
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beamishken
Thats just natural progression with a family!
That heavy slammy poor handling boat becomes a haven when your sat in your favourite anchorage & its pissing down & your sat with your feet up & the heater on.
The time I appreciated the hard boat the most was climbing back onboard with 4 of my pals after a frosty new years day dive & sitting next to the heater with a hot cuppa and a bacon roll.
Ribs are great............But sometimes not so great too ,
Theres pros & cons for all boats.
Well except sailboats maybe[emoji6]
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Horses for courses....(and "Jockey's"! )and a lot depends on the type of Boating you do or wish to do....distances travelled at Sea wthin time parameters...ease of Towing/Launching ...variety of interesting venues you may wish to see and visit country wide (or even further afield) ...personal weather/Sea state perimeters...costs involved inc mooring/lifting/storage maintanance... depreciation ect ect
Things family wise do defiantly get a lot easier as the children grow up for sure ...and passengers soon evolve into Crew!...but it's surprising how soon they fly the nest..and that is often when you can (practically and financially) really explore your boating preferences...
not to mention how well you and your Wife.. DO actually get on!
Happy 2021's Boating ALL!
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04 May 2021, 22:46
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: southampton
Boat name: TOP CAT 2
Make: Scorpion 8.1
Length: 8m +
Engine: 250hp HO
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,827
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Thank you everyone. Family trips are calshot to cowes and up to the folly in general. Nothing extreme, all suits, helmets and goggle suggestions appreciated. I might not put her in a proper helmet. I appreciate the padding and insulation but I always feared the impact of a helmet when I raced, should I fall in. On a small person with a small head/neck I fear drowning even more. Goggles and some form of head protection seem common sense after a windscreen. Can’t believe I didn’t think of all of those.
I have decided to fake an interest in fishing that should permit time out with the boys on the boat without the family. I won’t fish or take fishing gear but I’ll be first to the buoy!!
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04 May 2021, 22:54
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Leicester
Length: 5m +
Engine: 135hp Mercury
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,431
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gtflash
I have decided to fake an interest in fishing that should permit time out with the boys on the boat without the family. I won’t fish or take fishing gear but I’ll be first to the buoy!!
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Think I've spotted the flaw in your cunning plan....
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05 May 2021, 04:42
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Plymouth
Boat name: HAPPY NOW
Make: Cobra
Length: 8m +
Engine: Mercury 350
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 205
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I have decided to fake an interest in fishing that should permit time out with the boys on the boat without the family. I won’t fish or take fishing gear but I’ll be first to the buoy!![/QUOTE]
If all you want is occasional time out with the boys why not tell/ask your partner/wife/friend and off you go. Can never understand this SWMBO thing. It must be grim being under the thumb👎🏻
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05 May 2021, 06:58
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: southampton
Boat name: TOP CAT 2
Make: Scorpion 8.1
Length: 8m +
Engine: 250hp HO
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,827
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paintman
Think I've spotted the flaw in your cunning plan....
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05 May 2021, 09:15
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: SMH Rib / War Shot
Make: Ribtec / Scorpion
Length: 4m +
Engine: 100hp Yam/150hp opt
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,069
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I'm not sure that being sat on Mum's lap is ideal either - your daughter will have to rely on being held - rather than holding herself, with assistance. The bulky lifejacket collar pushed into Mum's chest will push it forward around the neck too.
My boys were fine sitting at the front of one of the two double jockeys in the back of my boat (handles on the front).
They did start out in their pushchair bungy strapped to the console though!
Sunglasses helped - as did a warm day. It's still quite cold out there at the moment.
I appreciate not everyone is the same.
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06 May 2021, 22:31
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Principalite d'Chaos
Boat name: The Nashers Revenge!
Make: Windsor Brothers
Length: 6m +
Engine: Optimax 225
MMSI: "Mmmmm SI" she said!
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,923
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When my lads were very young we found Gekos with full visors made them so much more comfortable, and they wanted to come out more often. I even made them a bit more fun with some decals.
Seen here without the visors:
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07 May 2021, 07:09
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Wild West
Boat name: No Boat
Make: No Boat
Length: under 3m
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 5,306
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasher
When my lads were very young we found Gekos with full visors made them so much more comfortable, and they wanted to come out more often. I even made them a bit more fun with some decals.
Seen here without the visors:
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What a Dad! .... Great stuff
I bet they loved em!
I never realise they did Children's versions Nash!
"Problem" solved
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07 May 2021, 09:28
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Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,910
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximus
I never realise they did Children's versions Nash!
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They may not have to - Factoid of the day thanks to Mister Google:
"Head circumference reaches approximately 90% of the adult size at 3 years and 95% at 5 years of age"
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07 May 2021, 10:27
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,178
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sutty
I have decided to fake an interest in fishing that should permit time out with the boys on the boat without the family. I won’t fish or take fishing gear but I’ll be first to the buoy!!
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If all you want is occasional time out with the boys why not tell/ask your partner/wife/friend and off you go. Can never understand this SWMBO thing. It must be grim being under the thumb[emoji1304][/QUOTE]
Agreed, my missus is keener on fishing than I am, AND she doesn’t get seasick 🤢
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08 May 2021, 22:46
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Principalite d'Chaos
Boat name: The Nashers Revenge!
Make: Windsor Brothers
Length: 6m +
Engine: Optimax 225
MMSI: "Mmmmm SI" she said!
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,923
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximus
I never realise they did Children's versions Nash!
"Problem" solved
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They are not specifically children's ones, and ours are not even the later ones with the inflatable liner.
All 3 are the early ones with removeable padding, which with a little extra was a good fit for the boys.
The boys white ones were ex RNLI that I picked up at a boat jumble and re-furbished.
My Black one is an ex-SBS one I brought online and again refurbished.
I had to add poppers for the visor on mine as the SBS have theirs set up for goggles.
Lady Nasher has one similar to mine, but didn't want the graphics.
Nasher.
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08 May 2021, 22:52
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Principalite d'Chaos
Boat name: The Nashers Revenge!
Make: Windsor Brothers
Length: 6m +
Engine: Optimax 225
MMSI: "Mmmmm SI" she said!
Join Date: Jan 2004
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As soon as they were old enough I got them children's sailing Dry suits to keep them warm and dry when needed, there are always some for sale in the sailing community, and they are easy to move on when they grow out of them.
As well as being warm, and having a protected face, the other thing that really helped them was sets of simple webbing stirrups I made to put their feet in when sitting on the jockey seats, as not being able to put your feet on the deck when on a jockey is really uncomfortable.
Nasher.
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08 May 2021, 23:41
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Retford
Boat name: Spy-sea-one
Make: Excel 435
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki Outboard/25/4
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 7,532
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Kids motorbike helmets would work
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08 May 2021, 23:48
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Principalite d'Chaos
Boat name: The Nashers Revenge!
Make: Windsor Brothers
Length: 6m +
Engine: Optimax 225
MMSI: "Mmmmm SI" she said!
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,923
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Geckos, and other watersports specific helmets are designed not to 'bucket' and snap your neck if you get thrown into the water, motorcycle helmets are not.
I wouldn't risk that with my kids.
Nasher.
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09 May 2021, 08:11
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: southampton
Boat name: TOP CAT 2
Make: Scorpion 8.1
Length: 8m +
Engine: 250hp HO
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,827
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasher
Geckos, and other watersports specific helmets are designed not to 'bucket' and snap your neck if you get thrown into the water, motorcycle helmets are not.
I wouldn't risk that with my kids.
Nasher.
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I agree. Despite wearing motorbike helmets when I raced, I was never keen on the idea.
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09 May 2021, 10:05
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Retford
Boat name: Spy-sea-one
Make: Excel 435
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki Outboard/25/4
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 7,532
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I think if I’d risk assessed that there was a possibility of my kids being thrown out to that extreme I wouldn’t be taking them or at least keep speed down and only boat in perfect conditions.
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