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Old 22 January 2010, 08:53   #1
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Wing seats on passenger jockey's?

Newbie question No. 3!

In specing up what I'd like ................

With a 10yo - wing seats would seem like a "good idea", for the second row.

Do they restrict movement around the RIB?

Any pro's and con's appreciated.

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Old 22 January 2010, 13:09   #2
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No cons, all pro's here.

They do restrict movement a little, but it's far better to have them than to not have em.
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Old 22 January 2010, 14:05   #3
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mmm, what do you think
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Old 22 January 2010, 14:11   #4
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Thanks - it was passenger ones, rather than helm - helm is a definate for me!

Nice pic though, thanks for posting
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Any pro's and con's appreciated
All in favour here. Helps avoid that tedious task of pulling little ones out of the drink after tight turns
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Old 22 January 2010, 16:15   #6
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wing seats a must

definetally!!! for leisure use they are the best.... they do restrict a bit of space on the rib..... but the saftey factor and comfort definetly win over the extra space!!!
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I am also thinking of upgrading my backs to wings as they say, but not the red bull type!! Apart from going back to Ribcraft does anyone know of a supplier or somewhere I can pick up second hand ones?

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Old 22 January 2010, 17:33   #8
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this i the first rib ive had with them on and wont be the last, they are superb, very supportive and confortable over a longer trip!!

speak to jace at ribcraft and see if he can do a supply only ribnet special for you<< worth asking!!
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this i the first rib ive had with them on and wont be the last, they are superb, very supportive and confortable over a longer trip!!

speak to jace at ribcraft and see if he can do a supply only ribnet special for you<< worth asking!!
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Old 22 January 2010, 20:36   #10
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I have wingback for the front two seats and then normal for the back

They are a PITA for moving about teh boat as they block off the centre however once you are used to them they do make a huge difference.

A lot depends on your seating layout and remeber they don't help much if they are not tight enough to grip your sides so you may need to make them quite tightfor kids and then they might be a pain for older people to use.

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i made some composite ones for my rib and i love em....

they are 2 layers of 450g bias cloth, 2 x 3mm foam and 2 layers of 450g cloth all vac'ed down, really strong and very comfortable......
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Old 23 January 2010, 10:34   #12
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I too made my seat backs. I covered a marine ply base with fiberglass as shown in the photo. Although I built the seat back to incorporate the supports for the wings, I reckon that the wings would have been happy without them and would have been strong enough for mounting on to standard seat back frames.

What I liked about this design was the fact the grab handles were to the sides of the seat which would be a big safety factor for preventing crush/chest injury's for those sat behind should a stuff occur. It also makes it easier for the rear passengers to get into position.
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Old 24 January 2010, 00:05   #13
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Biffy, Hightower & Butty,

You guys done a great job making your own backrests!! If you dont mind me asking, Who did the upholstery work for you's? My seat cushions are starting to tear at the stitching in places, so perhaps when i get them re-upholstered now would be the time to try making curved cushions for my own boat
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I have updated to wing backs for driver and front passenger, in my opinion the rear people who have to climb in will not need them so much, was my intention to update to newer standard equipment supplied on Scorpions to remove the one off effect. Deceptively supportive and very recomended.

My structure is flexi ply, epoxied over with CSM/woven rovings layer x2 both sides. Sanders Sails for upholstery, not only very well priced but they have put up with my major demands on a similar budget to original quotes to get everything perfect
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Old 24 January 2010, 11:31   #15
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Biffy, Hightower & Butty,

You guys done a great job making your own backrests!! If you dont mind me asking, Who did the upholstery work for you's? My seat cushions are starting to tear at the stitching in places, so perhaps when i get them re-upholstered now would be the time to try making curved cushions for my own boat
I can't recommend my upholsterers as I did have some problems with them. There are some others that people have used that are very good. PM Chris or Bedajim for details.
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I have updated to wing backs for driver and front passenger, in my opinion the rear people who have to climb in will not need them so much, was my intention to update to newer standard equipment supplied on Scorpions to remove the one off effect. Deceptively supportive and very recomended.

My structure is flexi ply, epoxied over with CSM/woven rovings layer x2 both sides. Sanders Sails for upholstery, not only very well priced but they have put up with my major demands on a similar budget to original quotes to get everything perfect
Gt Flash, does Sanders Sails do the uphostery on new Scorpion ribs? Its just i was on the Sanders Sails website and they have loads of scorpion ribs seating pictures in their upholstery section? Did they do your seat cushions aswell? are they comfortable? The reason i ask is that my tornado seat cushions have a really hard uncomfortable foam in them and i was thinking when the time comes to re-cover them i would like to fit some of the of cushions similar to the Scorpion style with really deep plush foam. Pity it won't make the hull as comfortable as a Scorpion Though!
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Does anyone have an idea what kind of price I could expect for a couple of the Ribcraft backrests?
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Gt Flash, does Sanders Sails do the uphostery on new Scorpion ribs? Its just i was on the Sanders Sails website and they have loads of scorpion ribs seating pictures in their upholstery section? Did they do your seat cushions aswell? are they comfortable? The reason i ask is that my tornado seat cushions have a really hard uncomfortable foam in them and i was thinking when the time comes to re-cover them i would like to fit some of the of cushions similar to the Scorpion style with really deep plush foam. Pity it won't make the hull as comfortable as a Scorpion Though!
Robbie, Charlie Arton is the number one Scorpion Trimer, Sanders also do some work for them but(in their own words) are too busy to drop everything and turn out the work as fast as Scorpion required at any given time. While Graham was the owner of Scorpion they did quite a bit of work for him, by all accounts. Ironically Sanders had done the original fabric on my boatin 2000 and not Charlie... The foam is progressive with differing levels of density.... but to my slightly improvd Scorpion spec. As an amature in car upholsterer and general fussy arse I cannot reccomend Sanders enough + approx 2/3rds Charlies prices!
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Old 25 January 2010, 09:53   #19
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this i the first rib ive had with them on and wont be the last, they are superb, very supportive and confortable over a longer trip!!

speak to jace at ribcraft and see if he can do a supply only ribnet special for you<< worth asking!!
They look very nice I am now considering some for my rib..
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Old 26 January 2010, 19:33   #20
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oh look, somew more of my composite back rests.....

http://rib.net/forum/attachment.php?...2&d=1264528161

think i might start manufacturing on a scale as they will work out cheaper.... and they will fit on exsisting metal work, what do you think???
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