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24 March 2011, 10:30
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 150
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,726
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I was out yesterday and discovered a "sweet spot" in the E-TEC fuel economy with a particular combination of RPM and trim - at 3500rpm, 32% trim and 28 knots I was achieving ~ 1.2 nm per litre (about 1.38 miles per litre for those not using real money ) which I was very pleased with on a 150hp outboard
Diesel would be much cheaper (not much more than half the cost of petrol here) but the initial outlay was a non starter for me and I doubt whether the payback period would have been less than 10 years.
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24 March 2011, 10:41
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: macclessfield
Boat name: Reach Out
Make: Quicksilver
Length: 4m +
Engine: 30hp Tohatsu EFI
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 301
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24 March 2011, 17:32
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Member
Country: Sweden
Town: Stockholm
Make: Avon
Length: 3m +
Engine: dt30 hp Suzuki -05
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 5
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well, the diesel here is about 1,3£ a litre
and the regular petrol about 1,2£
But in the archipelago (summer) its about 10-15% more expensive.
But if the US$ gets on its feet, I dont want to think about it (10-20% more? no thank you!)
but hey £ is pretty cheap too, to bad I have a rib(cant afford another one), otherwise I'd come looking for a searider or similar 4+meter
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24 March 2011, 23:03
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Country: UK - England
Town: New Forest
Boat name: Charlie Brown
Make: Scorpion
Length: 8m +
Engine: 275 Verado
MMSI: 235069179
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,082
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i get the increased cost of diesel setup when new but we bought our boat second hand. we got our boat for less than a similar spec outboard boat.
Now we are missing about 6 kts top end on them but im happy to get there a little later for all the other benefits we have!!
What i really like about the diesel is the huge amount of space on top of the engine cover and lower CofG which means at rest, the boat is more stable. means my beer doesnt fall off the table when we are sat at East Head in the sun!!
will be taking Charlie Brown to the fuel berth tomorrow. recon its going to cost me about 120 quid to top it up and based on last seasons figures we were running at a fraction over 1.1L per mile which i dont think is bad for a 9 meter Rib with 250 HP Diesel and a mixture of running from rough as hell to pottering up the Hamble.
would i swap.... not this year!
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27 March 2011, 16:23
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Member
Country: Netherlands
Town: Goudswaard
Boat name: mr D
Make: Deltapower
Length: 6m +
Engine: Yamaha f300 BETU
Join Date: Nov 2010
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One thing worth considering maybe but not sure whether applies in other countries, but in the Netherlands insurance for an inboard rib is considerably less than it is for a same size boat with an outboard engine...in my case about 250 litres of diesel a year less at todays fuelprizing....
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27 March 2011, 18:46
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Length: no boat
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 330
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Originally Posted by gohelm
One thing worth considering maybe but not sure whether applies in other countries, but in the Netherlands insurance for an inboard rib is considerably less than it is for a same size boat with an outboard engine...in my case about 250 litres of diesel a year less at todays fuelprizing....
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Now that's interesting, I had never thought to consider affects on insurance. Has anyone from the UK had a similar experience with their premium?
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27 March 2011, 19:18
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Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,910
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I have no idea but it certainly makes sense - less chance of a fuel fire and very difficult to pinch off the boat
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28 March 2011, 11:25
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Member
Country: Netherlands
Town: Goudswaard
Boat name: mr D
Make: Deltapower
Length: 6m +
Engine: Yamaha f300 BETU
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 236
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
I have no idea but it certainly makes sense - less chance of a fuel fire and very difficult to pinch off the boat
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especially the 'pinching part' is considered a huge risk by the insurance companies.
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30 March 2011, 21:05
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Gosport
Boat name: April Lass
Make: Moody 31
Length: 9m +
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,951
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Originally Posted by biffer
i'm not going to go on about this one, i'll just say, it's cheaper to run my cabin rib than my sr4 with a 40hp on
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There are even cheaper options
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At cruising speed we use about a red can full to reach France.
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30 March 2011, 21:10
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RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,910
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Originally Posted by Pete7
There are even cheaper options ..............
At cruising speed we use about a red can full to reach France.
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Not if you include all the meals you consume on the way...
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30 March 2011, 21:59
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Length: no boat
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 330
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Originally Posted by willk
not if you include all the meals you consume on the way...
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30 March 2011, 22:04
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: jersey
Boat name: Martini II
Make: Arctic 28/FC470
Length: 8m +
Engine: twin 225Opti/50hp 2t
MMSI: 235067688
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,030
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They say the cost of maintaining all those rags, sticks and bits of string is as much as the cost of filling up your stink boat with the motion lotion
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30 March 2011, 22:18
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RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
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This reminds me of standing on the Redbay 1050 open rib (twin 300hp O/B), slagging Tom that it had no Galley or Head...
"You'll be there before you need a cup of tea and a piss..." was the laconic reply
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30 March 2011, 22:23
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: jersey
Boat name: Martini II
Make: Arctic 28/FC470
Length: 8m +
Engine: twin 225Opti/50hp 2t
MMSI: 235067688
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And for the poor souls with less than 600hp on tap, take a thermos and a plastic bag
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30 March 2011, 22:37
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: A large rock
Boat name: La Frette
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 Suzzy
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,893
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
slagging Tom that it had no Galley or Head...
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Probably needed the space for a set of neck braces and a spine board ready for the injuries something of that speed would cause .
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30 March 2011, 22:46
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RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,910
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erin
Probably needed the space for a set of neck braces and a spine board ready for the injuries something of that speed would cause .
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Cheeky Rock-hopper! The only thing on it was a console and four ScotSeat suspension seats. Smooth ride
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30 March 2011, 22:50
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: jersey
Boat name: Martini II
Make: Arctic 28/FC470
Length: 8m +
Engine: twin 225Opti/50hp 2t
MMSI: 235067688
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,030
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
Cheeky Rock-hopper! The only thing on it was a console and four ScotSeat suspension seats. Smooth ride
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Parked behind it's design inspiration I see
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30 March 2011, 23:00
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RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,910
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martini
Parked behind it's design inspiration I see
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Not the first "Deere John" you've seen either
Cheeky Rock-hoppers are apparently a flocking species.
Buncha Flockers in fact....
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31 March 2011, 10:04
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: A large rock
Boat name: La Frette
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 Suzzy
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,893
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
Buncha Flockers in fact....
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Maybe so...... prepare for the bilges....... but at least we knew how to grow spuds in the 1840's
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31 March 2011, 14:32
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Castlebar
Boat name: Clewless
Make: Valiant DR 490
Length: 4m +
Engine: 60 hp ETEC
MMSI: Awaitng one
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,339
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What is the black coating on the deck of the red bay boat?
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