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12 November 2009, 18:51
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Yarmouth Harbour Reconfiguration Proposals
Not sure if everyoe is aware, but there are plans to change Yarmouth Harbour (IOW).
It will mean there be far more "walk-ashore" pontoons, but less space for RIBS to tie up against the wall (er.. Like NO space!).
For more information check here...
http://www.yarmouth-harbour.co.uk/news.php
It's likely the fees for visiting the harbour will increase as everyone will need to go "through" the harbour office, rather than simply tying up along the harbour wall.
What are you views?
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12 November 2009, 20:18
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When we all went to Yarmouth recently on the Searider Cruise the wall was under reconstruction, so we had to tie up in the marina on the pontoons.
It was obviously a little further to walk, but you do get access to all the facilities, and I did feel a little happier leaving all the electronics on show.
Not sure it's something I'm against really.
Nasher.
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12 November 2009, 20:42
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I read these and noted from the text ;
Elements that will NOT be affected by the Inner Harbour Reconfiguration Proposals:
The Sandhard Pontoon – will remain as it is currently.
The Town Quay wall visitor berths – current berths will remain.
Wightlink ferry operations remain unchanged.
The public slipway/emergency ferry landing will be unchanged.
Outer harbour buoy/swinging moorings will remain in place.
River Yar berthing remains unchanged.
Resident berth holder numbers will remain unchanged.
Visitor berth capacity remains unchanged.
So I reckon the quay wall will stay as is for Ribs .....................
I'm all in favour or more walk ashore berths - its just more usable & you dont have to climb a 10ft ladder which is off putting for new ribbers !
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12 November 2009, 21:36
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Unless their plans change, the quay wall option for mooring definitely WON'T stay.
They had a public showing of the plans for the last couple of days and had guys there to talk through the changes. They definitely don't want people to continue tying up along the quay wall, they wan't to keep that as a clear channel up to the slipway.
Talking of slipways, they are also going to remove the 2nd, less used slipway right next to the Harbour Office.
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12 November 2009, 21:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BrAinZ
Unless their plans change, the quay wall option for mooring definitely WON'T stay.
They had a public showing of the plans for the last couple of days and had guys there to talk through the changes. They definitely don't want people to continue tying up along the quay wall, they wan't to keep that as a clear channel up to the slipway.
Talking of slipways, they are also going to remove the 2nd, less used slipway right next to the Harbour Office.
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Hmm - just cant see it happening that way personally- no matter what they say no - the slip is not hugely used & given the option of putting 10+ RIBS against the wall on a nice Summer weekend, or 'keeping' the slip clear- its a no brainer surely ????( hopefully! )
Can you really see RIBs on the walkashore pontoons mid summer .......... I felt like a poor relation in the past.......
Maybe a call to the harbour is needed !
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12 November 2009, 22:07
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There is a feedback form on the site link I gave, and they are welcoming all feedback (apparently!).
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12 November 2009, 22:34
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Never liked the Sea wall and prefer the walk ashore pontoons, even if it costs me more.
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12 November 2009, 23:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hightower
Never liked the Sea wall and prefer the walk ashore pontoons, even if it costs me more.
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It's part of the old school fun of going to Yarmouth for lunch
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13 November 2009, 07:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hightower
Never liked the Sea wall and prefer the walk ashore pontoons, even if it costs me more.
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I know where you are coming from.
It's not so bad now the kids are older but it was a little worrying when they were younger, especially at low tide.
Nasher
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13 November 2009, 11:02
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i'm all for it, don't get me wrong, i don't like paying for anything, but when you got a bright yellow rib with teak decks it's little hard not to slant towards a proper berth when you get some idiot with black rubber soles dancing all over your'e boat
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13 November 2009, 21:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasher
I know where you are coming from.
It's not so bad now the kids are older but it was a little worrying when they were younger, especially at low tide.
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It wasn't just the climb up the wall I was thinking of, but the piles are set too far apart to correctly come alongside and tie up without some fancy ropework and fenders to protect the tubes from barnicals etc. Throw into the mix 10 RIBs that might well raft up to you without a clue what they're doing and damaged RIB, springs to mind.
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13 November 2009, 22:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hightower
Throw into the mix 10 RIBs that might well raft up to you without a clue what they're doing and damaged RIB, springs to mind.
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Mmm....
A selection of 'us' tied up against the wall at Yarmouth on various Ribnet cruises.
Enjoy.
Nasher.
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14 November 2009, 13:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasher
Mmm....
A selection of 'us' tied up against the wall at Yarmouth on various Ribnet cruises.
Enjoy.
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Yes point taken Nasher, I'm even in a couple of shots. But these are people that we know and would take care during rafting. There are a number of occasions when it's clear that other people don't care about other boats as much. Nos was upset by someone tieing off to a grab handle that was being ripped from the tube in one such incident.
The other point I'm trying to make is, unless you have a big enough boat that can straddle the piles, you can't sit up paralell to the sea wall because of these piles. On anything less that high tide there are lots of nasty snaggy stuff and barnicals. These ruin rubbing strakes etc should the fenders work themselfs out of position. Add to the mix 6 incorrectly rafted RIBs and this ....Well doesn't bear thinking about.
For an extra pound I can tie up to a pontoon, not have to worry about checking the RIB and adjusting the ropework at various states of tide and walk ashore knowing the kids won't fall or slip from the ladder.
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14 November 2009, 14:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackroady
the slip is not hugely used
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That not entirely true, its a very popular slip. It can get pretty crazy when the ferry traffic is queued up (and people ignore the yellow keep clear box) and when the harbour is busy.
I have not seen the proposal in detail but I fear it is inevitable that the harbour will lose its charm Another problem with the pontoons is that it makes moving around the harbour much more difficult and makes it more cramped in the few channels that are left.
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14 November 2009, 15:03
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Hightower
I agree with everything you are saying.
The images were posted 'tounge in cheek' just as an excuse to show the images.
When we are all out together the rafting up thing is part of the fun as we can all trust each other, and I remember at one event having to sit down before I fell overboard laughing as we struggled with the wobbly line of about 6 boats.
But like you when we are out alone I'd much rather tie up to a pontoon where you won't come back to loads of other boats hanging off your grab handles.
Nasher.
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14 November 2009, 18:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slimtim
That not entirely true, its a very popular slip. It can get pretty crazy when the ferry traffic is queued up (and people ignore the yellow keep clear box) and when the harbour is busy.
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It's definitely a popular slip with ME! - It's the main one I use when launching our RIB (and er.. cough.. Jetskis). Unfortunately on the IOW, the council does nothing to promote the use of the water for anyone who wishes to trailer their boats and dip them in and out of the sea.
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14 November 2009, 18:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasher
The images were posted 'tounge in cheek' just as an excuse to show the images.
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Tounge in cheek, you...Never
Good to have a reminder of some of the good times we've had together though.
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15 November 2009, 06:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hightower
Good to have a reminder of some of the good times we've had together though.
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Now steady on my rig is in some of the pics
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