Diesel rib wanted

Bobthebuilder447 · 02 March 2014, 17:32

Hi I am looking for advice on Which diesel rib to buy I have 20k to spend it is just for pleasure don't want a petrol can anyone point me in the right direction or know where to find a good one

willk · 02 March 2014, 18:05

I know that there's an Ocean at RBB: Pre-owned Boats - Redbay Boats

Kinda around your money...

Daniel · 02 March 2014, 22:30

Been a scorpion diesel on ebay at that money, you won't find a better rib and it's a yamaha drive so no fragile bravo legs to loose sleep over.

Seriously avoid a yanmar 315 and bravo 3 combo in a rib.

I was (am) tempted by Tempe scorpion but I haven't finished my current project yet.

beamishken · 02 March 2014, 23:24

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Been a scorpion diesel on ebay at that money, you won't find a better rib and it's a yamaha drive so no fragile bravo legs to loose sleep over.

Seriously avoid a yanmar 315 and bravo 3 combo in a rib.

I was (am) tempted by Tempe scorpion but I haven't finished my current project yet.

I'd read this thread before you discount a yanmar/bravo combo

Yamaha sterndrive change

It seems not everyone has great success with Yamaha &at least you will get parts to fix it if you do break it

remember Yamaha engines & drives have been out of production for a few years now & parts will inevitably become more difficult to find

ncp · 03 March 2014, 05:33

The United States Navy used Bravo III's mated to Yanmar 315's in their Zodiac H733 OTH's. The Bravo III's can handle a high rev'ing low torque diesel (though Merc's don't do as well against a B series Cummins above 210 hp)

Bobthebuilder447 · 03 March 2014, 19:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel

Been a scorpion diesel on ebay at that money, you won't find a better rib and it's a yamaha drive so no fragile bravo legs to loose sleep over.

Seriously avoid a yanmar 315 and bravo 3 combo in a rib.

I was (am) tempted by Tempe scorpion but I haven't finished my current project yet.

Can't find this scorpion rib on eBay what shoul I look for when buying a rib hope to view two ribs at the weekend with Volvo penta this will be my first rib so need some advice please.

Daniel · 03 March 2014, 19:49

Item # 161231823609 now ended but not relished not sure might have sold £20k for a diesel scorpion seams a good price.

I spoke to the chap he's in the trade but it's his own boat not brokerage. No trailer.

If I wasn't in the middle of a ballistic refurb I'd have bought this. Seriously you should view it.

My only comment would be speed / power It's only the yamaha 240hp engine.

Daniel · 03 March 2014, 19:52

Here you go found his msg: shaun huggins mobile 07779640922
Huggins Bros Marine Ltd &

beamishken · 03 March 2014, 21:41

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Originally Posted by Bobthebuilder447

Can't find this scorpion rib on eBay what shoul I look for when buying a rib hope to view two ribs at the weekend with Volvo penta this will be my first rib so need some advice please.

Personally I wouldnt go for a volvo installation in a rib unless it was an older none ecu engine eg Ad41 style all the later engines are ecu controlled some with electric gears & canbus guages

Volvos are usually heavier when compared to yamaha or yanmar which are both based on the same toyota landcruiser block & have very good power to weight ratio

Ribs by there very nature are wet boats & a few years in a damp environment doesnt do advanced electronics a lot of good
Only my opinion of course but I like the simplicity of the yam & yanmar engines

paulbrown22 · 03 March 2014, 22:11

I wouldn't necessarily avoid a Yanmar 6lp/Bravo3 combo. Yes, there's quite a few examples of issues (not just in RIB's), but it was a very popular/common setup, so is likely to attract more problems.

The Bravo3 leg isn't perhaps as robust as it could be to deal with the torque of the 6lp, so maybe not ideal for constant use in commercial operations, but as a leisure drive, should be fine if sensibly used.

I've had mine (a 2004 vintage) for about 18 months now without any drive issues. I did fit a drive shower as soon as I bought it, regularly change the drive oil, try to avoid launching off waves and digging in again at high revs, etc. With a few sensible precautions, I think it can be a pretty good setup, and very easy to get parts for.

yam man · 04 March 2014, 07:15

Both good engine setups if look after an maintain .only thing with 6lp is the turbo lag but in the right Boat weight ect is liveable as were the yams just get up go

ir158 · 05 March 2014, 14:24

Hi,

I have a 9m Scorpion with yamaha 420STi engine coupled to Hydra drive leg.
Very well spec'd, 3 internal tanks with electronic change over. 2x vhf, 2x GPS, fish finder etc etc Very clean boat. However located in Ireland.

I would be looking for 22k sterling but I'm sure a deal could be reached.

If your interested give me a shout and I will get full spec and pics onto you.

Dan

Daniel · 05 March 2014, 18:29

How does you boat perform with that engine, it's only 240hp right? Does it have a trailer / what age / how many engine hours?

ir158 · 05 March 2014, 18:42

It performs fantastically with it, very very economical, with the current prop setup it will peak at 35/36 knots however I just cruise it at 24/27 and its very light on fuel.
As far as I know its a 1998 with 1200 hours on it, engine had a full rebuild 2 years ago (lots of receipts to prove) it is silky smooth, doesnt burn oil, same can be said for the leg, it gets stripped and serviced every 6 months.

Its on a super rollercoaster trailer however I do need to replace one axle on it before the start of the season.

Im not in any massive rush to sell, the only r3ason that I am is because I am in the local lifeboat (mechanic and crew) and I spend more time out training in that than I do in my own rib, I simply dont have the time.

Daniel · 05 March 2014, 21:17

Sounds a nice setup. I can't buy it (right now) as I'm in the middle of another refurb but 2 affordable scorpion diesels in the space of a week. Damn.

Bobthebuilder447 · 05 March 2014, 21:40

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Originally Posted by ir158

Hi,

I have a 9m Scorpion with yamaha 420STi engine coupled to Hydra drive leg.
Very well spec'd, 3 internal tanks with electronic change over. 2x vhf, 2x GPS, fish finder etc etc Very clean boat. However located in Ireland.

I would be looking for 22k sterling but I'm sure a deal could be reached.

If your interested give me a shout and I will get full spec and pics onto you.

Dan

looks good but iam going to view a redbay rib and a Humber rib on Saturday so will let you know after that as they are both close by

LURCHER · 06 March 2014, 17:04

I have an 8.5 Humber with Volvo Kad44 no real issues except a few starter motors in the last 7 years , I have seen 38kn with a following wind but tend to stick to about 2600 rpm which is good for around 25 kn . Fuel is about 1.1l per mile . The super charger and turbo combination appears complex but works well and very good pick up and no lag.

Bobthebuilder447 · 06 March 2014, 22:57

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Originally Posted by LURCHER

I have an 8.5 Humber with Volvo Kad44 no real issues except a few starter motors in the last 7 years , I have seen 38kn with a following wind but tend to stick to about 2600 rpm which is good for around 25 kn . Fuel is about 1.1l per mile . The super charger and turbo combination appears complex but works well and very good pick up and no lag.

Can you send me some pics and a phone number please am away at the weekend to view a couple of ribs so will give you a call

LURCHER · 07 March 2014, 06:46

Sorry if I gave the impression of it being for sale ! I was just pointing out that I am very happy with the KAD set up !
Good luck in your search.